Motor with Industrial Argentina markings

[TBone69]

Hey Folks,

A few years back I picked up a RHD Chassis that was under a 29 Phaeton that supposedly came from Argentina.

Anyways fast forward 6 years and I'm getting into the motor. Other than rust buildup in the cycling era from sitting everything seemed in good shape other than being filthy. So we started pulling it apart and checking things out.

First thing we noticed was the pistons and front pulley are marked Industria Argentina. The valve seats seem to be sunk below the deck surface.

Then we Started by checking rod clearances on #1, #2 and #4 came out spot on at .0015, #3 came in at .002. #3 and #4 had some home made shims. Rod journals measured .030 under at 1.469. Big issue is the #4 rod journal has a bunch of pitting.

After pulling the first piston we found a 4 ring pistons, I'm guessing these are original. Piston 1 thru 3 looked ok, 4 had some rust a stuck bottom ring.

That's as far as we got today, crank will come out next weekend.

[Gary WA]

One of these ? very interesting! These are in Brazil.

[TBone69]

Trying to post some more pictures but keep getting a security token is missing when trying to upload?

[Steve Plucker]

Can we see the engine number?

Pluck

[TBone69]

Finally was able to upload more pics, had some problems but after resizing and re naming I was successful.

I was hoping I was going to get away with hone and rings on this one just to have a runner while I'm building my BIG inch hot rod banger but that #4 rod journal doesn't look too good to me.

Also from what I've read ring sets are no longer available for the 4 rings style piston?

Looks like the valve seats also have been replaced but sit too low? More investigation is needed there.

[Tony Hillyard]

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I had the same problem trying to load pictures. Try making your pictures lower quality. It seems that if modern digital camera (or phone) are set at high quality sometimes they won't up-load to some websites.

Good luck

Tony

[TBone69]

Originally Posted by Steve Plucker

Can we see the engine number?

Pluck

Hi Steve,

I will get some pics this evening. It also has the early front timing cover that bolts directly to the front cross member and early oil pan with the clean out plate.

[john charlton]

I have had parts with "Industria Argentina" off various RHD cars from South America . Cylinder heads ,flywheel housings,waterpumps,trans gears,clutchplates,emergency brake carriers etc etc . Not as nicely made as USA but did the job . Go to YouTube and check out the Argentine club site some very nice cars and lots of them .

John in warm humid evening Suffolk County England.

[verrece]

Ford Argentina built more than 100.000 cars in their Buenos Aires plant. I have no notice that the engine was built here, but we fabricate a lot of parts here, especially during second war. Many of them were exported to diferents countries

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by TBone69

Finally was able to upload more pics, had some problems but after resizing and re naming I was successful.

I was hoping I was going to get away with hone and rings on this one just to have a runner while I'm building my BIG inch hot rod banger but that #4 rod journal doesn't look too good to me.

Just polish #4 with some crocus cloth. It'll do just fine as your "runner". As my dad told me, " A little rust just lets it hold more oil".

[TBone69]

Originally Posted by Steve Plucker

Can we see the engine number?

Pluck

Hi Pluck,

Unfortunately it looks like it has been re stamped. You can feel where it was ground down on the pad as it is no longer flat.

[TBone69]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Just polish #4 with some crocus cloth. It'll do just fine as your "runner". As my dad told me, " A little rust just lets it hold more oil".

I was watching a bunch of DIY crank polishing videos on you tube today, gonna give it a try and readjust shims as necessary

[TBone69]

Hey Folks

Did some more disassembly and found some more Industria Argentina markings. This time on the cam gear, looks like it's plastic.

Also got the crank out and found more pitting, old oil and water are not friendly plenty of shims left in the main caps and Babbitt looks ok, main journals are .020 to .024 under, rod journals are .030 under. Bores are standard but have a .010 to .018 taper so much for a quick ring and hone job. Taking a look at the pistons again it looks like there are ring expanders behind the rings, guess that was an old trick to deal with tapered bores.

[Benson]

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