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Old 11-02-2019, 04:48 PM   #21
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Hi CarlG:


Where did you get these? Did you put it together yourself? Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-02-2019, 05:54 PM   #22
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Interesting to note too is that the form of today's cotter pins are not the same as those available during the Model A era. Modern cotter pin heads are kind of diamond shaped, while those made back in the day had rounded heads. You can't get those round head cotter pins today, so if you have an old jar of themlaying around I bet a fine point car restorer would pay good money for them.

The diamond shaped head is part of the "hammer lock" of modern pins. As you say, one of the things judges look for in "Fine point" as the hammer locks were not available until the mid-30s.


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Old 11-02-2019, 05:58 PM   #23
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Yes, but... what colour were they?
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Old 11-02-2019, 10:55 PM   #24
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Where did you get these? Did you put it together yourself? Thanks for sharing.
I researched the cotter pins on line and bought them in bulk, the boxes came from WalMart.
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Old 11-03-2019, 11:03 PM   #25
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Yes, but... what colour were they?

The Judging Standards state the cotter pins were "Unfinished"


I have worked on a lot of Model A's and early V-8's thru the years. All of what I believed to be original cotter keys were unfinished.


Therefore, it is my opinion the cotter pins from the factory had no finish. They were "unfinished"


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Old 11-03-2019, 11:35 PM   #26
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Originally, Henry used cotter pins with no finish.

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The Judging Standards state the cotter pins were "Unfinished"

I have worked on a lot of Model A's and early V-8's thru the years. All of what I believed to be original cotter keys were unfinished.

Therefore, it is my opinion the cotter pins from the factory had no finish. They were "unfinished"

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So what colour were the cotter pins again?
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Yes, but... what colour were they?

And Thank You updraught for being persistent...

Whew, that was a tough one...
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Old 11-04-2019, 08:40 AM   #27
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I think that if your car is so perfect that you are worried about the finish of the cotter pins and the shape of their heads you're in pretty good shape!!
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Old 11-04-2019, 11:08 AM   #28
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Thanks CarlG, great idea. I will do the same thing.
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Old 11-04-2019, 11:16 AM   #29
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I like Carl's 'kit' also.
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Old 11-04-2019, 11:24 AM   #30
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I think that if your car is so perfect that you are worried about the finish of the cotter pins and the shape of their heads you're in pretty good shape!!
Well for me, my car is not perfect nor am I worried about the finish of the cotter pins. I was asking a question so I could answer a question posed to me. And in the process I learned something. Which is always a good thing...for me.
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Old 11-04-2019, 06:10 PM   #31
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Well for me, my car is not perfect nor am I worried about the finish of the cotter pins. I was asking a question so I could answer a question posed to me. And in the process I learned something. Which is always a good thing...for me.
Your Question is no worse than the one a few years ago that asked which way they were bent, that started a big WAR and it led to many people being Banned from this site or they just stopped posting all together.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:10 PM   #32
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If a person is restoring a car to Fine Point Standards, the finish on the cotter pins is something he may be interested in.


A Fine Point Restoration is not for everyone but some folks want to try to restore a Model A as closely to how it was when it left the factory as they can.


Others want to restore a car and do some upgrades and use the Model A for touring which is also a good thing.


And there are those who just want to try and keep their Model A running so they can drive it around town and participate in local events which is also OK.


I guess what I am trying to say, this hobby has something for everyone which is what makes the Model A such a great hobby car.


Again, this is JUST MY OPINION,


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