Women buy shoes: Guys buy toys[old Fords]

[Newc]

Been communicating on this HAMB Ford for a few months and then there was a price drop, So it's now in my garage. An original body unrestored '40 dlx cpe. suffering a bit from yrs of storage in Blaine, Tennessee, by way of Detroit area. I an a sucker for unrestored Fords. It has a '39 trans and a X brand 283 tho. Here goes. Newc

[woodiewagon46]

Newc, very nice, old time street rod. The 283 with the breather tube on the manifold and generator is very cool. I'm sure you will get grief from the flathead boy's, but I would take that car in a minute.

[tubman]

I've always heard that that powertrain was a factory option. Seriously, it looks like a verrrry nice car. If it was mine and ran and drove good, I wouldn't change a thing.

[flatford8]

I’ve seen that on the HAMB as well....if I remember correctly the price seemed reasonable a few months ago when I was looking at it....I have enough vehicles and projects now though....the 283 wouldn’t have bothered me a bit!!!.....Congrats to you!!.....Mark

[Kube]

Originally Posted by Newc

Been communicating on this HAMB Ford for a few months and then there was a price drop, So it's now in my garage. An original unrestored '40 dlx cpe. suffering a bit from yrs of storage in Blaine, Tennessee, by way of Detroit area. I an a sucker for unrestored Fords. It has a '39 trans and a X brand 283 tho. Here goes. Newc

I think the only thing I'd change is I would stop calling it "original".. far from it.

[hotrodart]

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Great buy! You might be more welcome on HAMB than FordBarn though. Keep us posted on your progress.

[corvette8n]

Nice car you could always put a warmed over flathead back in it.

[CHuDWah]

Dang, I gotta read the HAMB more! Very nice old hot rod. That 283/39 trans swap was pretty common "back in the day." I agree I wouldn't change a thing...well, maybe some flames on the hood.

[JSeery]

Very nice! Funny how the Chevy V8 seems like a drop-in in these old Fords!! Was THE thing to do in the later 50s and 60s.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by JSeery

Very nice! Funny how the Chevy V8 seems like a drop-in in these old Fords!! Was THE thing to do in the later 50s and 60s.

You are of course quite correct. I've had a few through the years and they appeared to be factory installed.
I had a '48 convertible with a '49 Olds Rocket 88 that also appeared to be factory installed.
All were bolted up to the stock transmissions and all were frightening to drive. Especially the Olds fitted '48. Way too much power for that stock chassis.

[deuce_roadster]

At this point in time it wouldn't surprise me if there were more 40 Fords with sbc engines then flatheads.

[JSeery]

Think that might be a safe bet.

[petehoovie]

"It has a '39 trans and a X brand 283 tho. Here goes." Newc

How does it run? Does it run good?

[Tim Ayers]

Love it!!! Thanks for sharing. Only thing better than an old Ford, is an old Ford hot rod!

[mfirth]

Is that the one advertised a "rum runner" ? One add i saw said the car was used to run "shine"......

[alanwoodieman]

every 40 Ford coupe was a "moonshine car", I thought everybody knew that.

[40cpe]

My '38 had that combination when I bought it. Ran fine and cool. I built an L100 276" 8BA to replace it. The 283 now sits in the corner with all the mounts, adapter, etc if it ever gets re-installed. Here is the 283 coming out and the 276" installed. Some days I long for the smooth drivability again.

[Newc]

Yep; It is the 'Shine' car. even have the 'Mug shot' of the owner when busted. Fellow named 'Luther'. The body is 'original' anyway, never been apart. thanks fellows. Drove it 75 miles today. Newc

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by hotrodart

Great buy! You might be more welcome on HAMB than FordBarn though.

Man, what a "sleeper"! This guy, and this car are as welcome as can be on MY FordBarn! I THINK that Kube likely leaned over to his left and barfed-up dinner when he saw that third picture! I LOVE this thing!! DD

[tubman]

Originally Posted by 40cpe

My '38 had that combination when I bought it. Ran fine and cool. I built an L100 276" 8BA to replace it. The 283 now sits in the corner with all the mounts, adapter, etc if it ever gets re-installed. Here is the 283 coming out and the 276" installed. Some days I long for the smooth drivability again.

I find this sentence quite interesting. I would expect a well-built 276" flathead would be just about equal to a stock 283. It sounds like you experienced a not insignificant difference between the two. I, for one, would appreciate it if you would elaborate on it.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Man, what a "sleeper"! This guy, and this car are as welcome as can be on MY FordBarn! I THINK that Kube likely leaned over to his left and barfed-up dinner when he saw that third picture! I LOVE this thing!! DD

No barfing. Truth be told, I've had more than a few of these (both '39 & '40) through the years. I'd always had fun with them.
It wasn't that many years ago, I'd sold a standard tudor that I had owned for better than twenty years. SUPER body and for the most part, unmolested. The long term plan (when I got time) was a full body off refurbishment with a hot flathead, perfect black paint and superior quality flame job. Nerf bars, white tuck n' roll pleated interior, black piping. You get the "picture".
Finally I came to the realization I'd probably not get to it with so many restorations lined up.
Maybe some day...

[deuce5wndw]

Love it! Enjoy

[40cpe]

Originally Posted by tubman

I find this sentence quite interesting. I would expect a well-built 276" flathead would be just about equal to a stock 283. It sounds like you experienced a not insignificant difference between the two. I, for one, would appreciate it if you would elaborate on it.

I think a '67 283/4bbl was rated at around 190 hp, while a 276 similar to mine would be around 140-150 hp from what I read. The difference is apparent. The 283 was smooth in all conditions, while the flathead surges on deceleration from about 1200 rpm down to clutch engagement. I've minimized this by initial timing about 4-5 degrees ATDC. Ported vacuum advance brings it back up when carb is opened. I've asked here for a possible cause. I didn't degree the cam, don't know if it being off would cause this problem. Then, I have straight exhaust on the flathead. Why have a cam if you can't hear it? Maybe the biggest reason is my mood is different from time to time.

[FL&WVMIKE]

This car has FAR more class than a 350 SBC with a 350 Turbo Automatic trans in a generic street rod! It's actually 'period correct', and the ONLY thing that looks like it has been changed is the engine. This car would be very easy to un-do if a person so desired, but I would also leave it as-is. It's a time capsule, NOT a generic, belly button street rod! Plus, the way it is, it will generate a lot more interest than either a generic street rod OR a restored original. Would be a lot of fun to sit around and talk about the car!

Enjoy it!

['36 5W]

^^^Yup; an "old-timey" hot rod, we used to call them, back in
the late 60s. Often hear them called "survivor hot-rod" today.

Maintain a low profile, keep a light foot on the loud pedal, and
both you and that '39 trans. should survive!

[Mart]

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I like it a lot. Good points made above. There is a big difference between that and a 350/350 heidts front end, parallel reared street rod.

It looks like a ton o fun.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Kube

No barfing. Truth be told, I've had more than a few of these (both '39 & '40) through the years. I'd always had fun with them.
It wasn't that many years ago, I'd sold a standard tudor that I had owned for better than twenty years. SUPER body and for the most part, unmolested. The long term plan (when I got time) was a full body off refurbishment with a hot flathead, perfect black paint and superior quality flame job. Nerf bars, white tuck n' roll pleated interior, black piping. You get the "picture".
Finally I came to the realization I'd probably not get to it with so many restorations lined up.
Maybe some day...

Sorry Kube….you dropped the ball and Bob McCoy already did the spittin' image of that car for you with his iconic '40 that put SEDANS up there in a status reserved for but a few in the "real hot rod" world. This car sealed it's status with cover shots on Hot Rod and Car Craft Magazines back in the heyday. I've heard Bob's sedan touted as probably one of the top 20 influential hot rods of all time. Looking at the picture, Bob had to be a pretty cool one, eh? I'll bet you might have been a cool one too back in the day, huh Kube? DD


McCoy's '40!












Bob's Prom Date 1956







……………….

[V8COOPMAN]

Newc …...MY FINAL OFFER! I have a full-grown 22-year old son with a fully-functional, and fully paid-for LG "smart phone" that I would be willing to trade both of them (as a package) straight across for your little black coupe. Let me know! DD

[Kube]

[QUOTE=V8COOPMAN;1895152]Sorry Kube….you dropped the ball and Bob McCoy already did the spittin' image of that car for you with his iconic '40 that put SEDANS up there in a status reserved for but a few in the "real hot rod" world. This car sealed it's status with cover shots on Hot Rod and Car Craft Magazines back in the heyday. I've heard Bob's sedan touted as probably one of the top 20 influential hot rods of all time. Looking at the picture, Bob had to be a pretty cool one, eh? I'll bet you might have been a cool one too back in the day, huh Kube? DD


McCoy's '40!












Bob's Prom Date 1956






That's nearly as I had envisioned doing mine. I knew it wasn't an original idea. I recall clearly lusting after a very similar one that used to frequent the Dog n' Suds I'd worked at when I was fourteen.

[Kube]

Originally Posted by v8coopman

newc …...my final offer! I have a full-grown 22-year old son with a fully-functional, and fully paid-for lg "smart phone" that i would be willing to trade both of them (as a package) straight across for your little black coupe. Let me know! Dd

don't do it newc!

[tub1]

i think your coupe is great just as it is ,ive a flathead 39 sloper that I wouldn't change it drives great ,my 35 tub is set up same as your 40 coupe and I like it just the way it is , just enjoy your car however you want it its yours

[FL&WVMIKE]

The picture of the flamed street rod above reminded me of this one owned by Bob Sayre in WV. I believe this picture was taken in 1991... or maybe very late 1980's. Not sure. Anyway, this was at the Fun Ford Weekend at National Trail Raceway. Fun Ford Weekend was both a car show and drag race. All Ford. Bob actually used a strap on his street rod to tow my broken mustang to the truck stop down the road from the track. lol

Bob's car was a tastefully done street rod. It had a 302. He built/painted it himself, and drove it everywhere! As a sad side note... he succumbed to the very bad trend of pastels, and painted the car PINK! I could have slapped him... and he probably could have slapped himself, as it was a short lived trend, and the car never was the same after that! LOL!