1935-48 Flathead engine mounts.

[oz40]

I'm in the process on setting my motor into the chassis on my 1940 ford. I would like to hear from my fellow fordbarners the pros and cons on the after market engine mounts as I have heard stories they collapse due to the quality of the rubber. Or is there anyone selling NOS or have a quality one on the market.. I have posted up a couple of pictures of the Bob Drake version,,,is the Bob Drake version any good?? Thanks in advance.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by oz40

I'm in the process on setting my motor into the chassis on my 1940 ford. I would like to hear from my fellow fordbarners the pros and cons on the after market engine mounts as I have heard stories they collapse due to the quality of the rubber. Or is there anyone selling NOS or have a quality one on the market.. I have posted up a couple of pictures of the Bob Drake version,,,is the Bob Drake version any good?? Thanks in advance.

Hell, I'm a skosh older than the newest (1948) factory insulators that you're talking about, and I also have parts of ME that are kind'a collapsing. Those engines are HEAVY, and the car bouncing all that weight up and down for gazillions of cycles on those insulators over the past 75 or 80 years IS gonna make the insulators flatten somewhat after that use, as well as figuring-in the natural degradation of the rubber over that length of time! DD

[FortyNiner]

I used the Carpenter version, as I recall, and have no issues with them. Any NOS rubber item will have long gained the pliability of a hockey puck - nicely matching the exact condition of the undesirable existing bit.

[KiWinUS]

Carpenter mounts lasted Les than 10 years & 8,000 miles in my 36 from recommendations here on barn I have installed Bob Drake. They have metal band around outside The Carpenters I used back then did not.

[Kube]

I actually prefer the Drake mounts. Keep your old bolts though as I've found the new ones (supplied) are too short.

[Thomas911-76]

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Thanks for this information.
Since 1 year I use the older reproduction full rubber version from MAC's. And now the rubber looks like 50 years old and flat. The rubber quality is very bad. And I am angry because the shipping costs to Germany belonged 65 US$ for that 2 parts. [emoji34]
I am very interested for the drake versions.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Thomas911-76

Since 1 year I use the older reproduction full rubber version from MAC's. And now the rubber looks like 50 years old and flat. The rubber quality is very bad.

A few folks keep trying to warn others to be aware.....I can't think of ONE good thing to say about this bunch, shipping practices included. DD

[51woodie]

I used Drake mount kits on my '46 Coupe, and like Kube, I had to use the original bolts, as the ones in the kit are too short. I installed the Drake mounts three years ago and +/- 7000 miles ago, and they are still good.

[JM 35 Sedan]

I would go with the Drake mounts. Drake's rubber products usually seem to work better for me than Carpenter's.

[19Fordy]

I used these on my 40 with the 8BA. Not sure who made them.

Are the rubber mounts for the 40 transmission the same as the engine mounts?
Interchangeable?

[KGS]

Originally Posted by 19Fordy

I used these on my 40 with the 8BA. Not sure who made them.

Are the rubber mounts for the 40 transmission the same as the engine mounts?
Interchangeable?

Yes.

[nickthebandit]

Why don't you order more than 1 pair of rubber mounts. Offer the others to fellow enthusiasts for a fair price to offset your costs. They would probably be happy to buy from you, and only pay a little more so as to avoid the $ 65.00 shipping cost.

[Thomas911-76]

Originally Posted by nickthebandit

Why don't you order more than 1 pair of rubber mounts. Offer the others to fellow enthusiasts for a fair price to offset your costs. They would probably be happy to buy from you, and only pay a little more so as to avoid the $ 65.00 shipping cost.

The problem is, here in Germany I have the only 1940 Fordor. And I know one with a convertible and one standard. That's all.

[JSeery]

There are also poly ones if you don't care about looking original.

[Viv W]

These same mountings were used on a lot of different cars, such as Auburn, Rover and even Land rovers, so you don't have to buy from Ford parts vendors. I found some new old stock ones from I think 1954/6 Rover 75/Landrover. Used them on my 35 Ford and on my 35 Auburns.
Try Napa stores and see if they stock them.
Viv.

[coolcoupe]

While were on engine mounts,how much do you tighten them ?

[Krylon32]

Just make sure you get the mounts with the stainless band around them. That band helps keep the mounts from squishing out and going flat. Over the years I've built a bunch of 28-40 customer FH chassis and have used that style of cushion with no problems. Just ordered 12 pairs from So-Cal Pomona for use on the mounts for my 409 Chevy to FH water pump kits.

[fordor41]

I used mounts from speedway and changed them once in 24 yrs.

[Talkwrench]

You haven't popped up for a while Tom...

[corvette8n]

Is this why Drake offers bolts that are a 1/4" longer as a seperate item?

[oz40]

Hi Talkwrench,, I have been busy with plenty of projects but always dropping in here onto Fordbarn and enjoying the posts/reads.

[mercman from oz]

I have owned these new Ford Flathead Engine Mounts for about 50 years. They do not have any markings? Would these be Genuine Ford?

[Mr 42]

Originally Posted by Thomas911-76

Thanks for this information.
Since 1 year I use the older reproduction full rubber version from MAC's. And now the rubber looks like 50 years old and flat. The rubber quality is very bad. And I am angry because the shipping costs to Germany belonged 65 US$ for that 2 parts. [emoji34]
I am very interested for the drake versions.

live in Sweden, and use a company (www.Jetcarrier.com) that gives me an US address. That i ship the part in US to.
And if the part is on my address on Friday before 10:00, that parts are in Sweden Next Thursday fro a fair price.
You can chose Sea freight for heavier parts, takes around two months.

I am sure there is similar company that serves German to.
regarding Mac's if you order two part the sen three boxes, and that raises the price on jetcarrier to unacceptable. So no more order on Macs for me.

Regarding Rubber parts i always order from Bob Drake, even if its a bit bad it's still the best that exist.

[DavidG]

Mike,

I use both the Drake reproductions and NOS ones (which in the latter case unlike lots of NOS rubber parts, they seem to retain their original elasticity). The bolts that come with the Drake versions are the correct length for '32-'36 applications (although I use original bolts). Starting with the '37s longer bolts were used originally when this type of insulator was used for the back of the transmission on the center cross member.

Two nit picks about the Drake reproductions are that I wish they used yellow cadmium or yellow zinc plating for the steel portions of the top and bottom insulators, as original, and no upper steel washer is supplied. Originally, in addition to the large washer that the motor mount brackets rest upon there was a small, thick washer that went on top of the motor mount brackets (beneath the nut). I would also be nice if the nut and large washer supplied were cadmium plated (S7) as original rather than black oxide (S2).

[40larry]

Originally Posted by oz40

I'm in the process on setting my motor into the chassis on my 1940 ford. I would like to hear from my fellow fordbarners the pros and cons on the after market engine mounts as I have heard stories they collapse due to the quality of the rubber. Or is there anyone selling NOS or have a quality one on the market.. I have posted up a couple of pictures of the Bob Drake version,,,is the Bob Drake version any good?? Thanks in advance.

You could still buy NOS Ford motor mount pads from your Ford dealer's parts department up to about 10 years ago. These had Ford script and were painted grey. They are far superior to anything ever reproduced. The price was crazy about $25. each but if you want to play with the best you have to pay for the best. The grey paint can be cleaned away with lacquer thinner for using on a concourse restoration. Sometimes you see these grey ones laying around at swap meets. Good luck.

[V8 Bob]

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I've had very good service with the cushion mounts from Chassis Engineering Inc., which is now part of Heidts. They closely resemble stock Ford biscuits, have a SS band and are high quality, like all C.E. products. (C.E. used these on all their engine mounts) I have them in my FH '32 and BBF '40. They are still available from Heidts; #SS-0011.

[Tom's36coupe]

Getting ready to put the engine back in and not sure what is the correct way to instal the front motor mounts. Got a new set from Macs, large rubber puck and then a smaller rubber pad. Any pictures would be most appreciated

[JSeery]

Green Book illustration.

[Aarongriffey]

Torque?
Run the nuts on with you fingers as tight as you can with two fingers, then turn them one more castle and put the cotter pin in.
I have one car that I actually put hockey pucks in. They are cheap. I’ve also used ‘55 Chevy V8 mounts.

[Aarongriffey]

Torque?
Run the nuts on with you fingers as tight as you can with two fingers, then turn them one more castle and put the cotter pin in.
I have one car that I actually put hockey pucks in. They are cheap. I’ve also used ‘55 Chevy V8 mounts. You can usually get them at the local parts store.
And any store can order them.

[cajunfirehawk]

Originally Posted by JSeery

There are also poly ones if you don't care about looking original.

Really would be interested in seeing those, those would NEVER collapse like the rubber ones, IMHO

[Tom's36coupe]

Thank you!