1937 No start

[George/Maine]

Seeing I don,t have the dist here.
Making a bad part work.
If I is truly 45 degs off.
If at TDC the dist were pointing at # 4 you could start there and rewire moving wire back one place.
Bad fix even worse , If it poined at top rear drivers side,you would lose your order of wire on same side.The wires would be crossing from one side to other.

[grumpys hot rods]

Any update on the no start, I would like to know if the car is running?
What was the FIX?

[BUBBAS IGNITION]

TAH DAH ......AND (drum roll) the fix is / was ????

101 posts to the thread, 1755 people read the post we gotta know what happened here ????

[Bassman/NZ]

Damn! I just read the entire thread, it's like a book with no ending...

[Matt in Alameda]

I wonder if it will be in paperback soon? ...Hang in there as the Barn people are great...as someone once said..." This problem, when solved, will be simple".........Let us know what happened...I know too little to advise, but I think it has to be a timing issue....that's my guess. Matt in Alameda

[George/Maine]

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I think when the made the rotor, they figured the drive slot was at 12 oclock and cylinder#1 at 12 oclock,not knowing the cam drive was a 11 oclock 10:30 45 degs.So if thats true the piston would be "half way down" and firing late,and fireing thur the carb.
I,d guess a new dist is on way.

[BUBBAS IGNITION]

b t t t , any news or plans ??

[Matt in Alameda]

WELLLLL???? ........ Matt in Alameda

[Jack E/NJ]

Hey! RTT again!

Jack E/NJ

[BUBBAS IGNITION]

News flash! The distributor is heading to our place , will put in the intensive care department right away and post health results as soon as possible......

[George/Maine]

Well its about time something is happening.
I asked for someone to show or tell what a good one would look like only 8 days ago.Like a boom o rang the center line is on wrong rotor.Thats my guess and i,m sticking to it.
There is no politics is right or wrong.

[George/Maine]

I have been thinking about this rainy day here.
What I have found the firing order is 15486372 no problem there.Number 1 is pass side top in line with slot in cam.
Now here is were its wrong.
Pass fender side view,going clock wise,1 4 3 2,
Now drivers side is again clock wise view from fender 7 5 8 6

The diagram is wrong,and if the car did run the plug wires are mixed or rotor is wrong.

[ken ct]

By George,i think youve got it,looks like he has #3+#4 crossed on the right side and #8+#6 crossed on the left side[drivers side]. ken ct. I suspected crossed wires from day 1. Easy to do. LOL. So Bubba getting the dist to check wont help unless he sent the wires attached to the dizzy plates.

[Jack E/NJ]

Am I missing something here? The caps should be clearly numbered as to which cylinder each wire should go. What's an erroneous diagram have to do with actually looking at the numbers on the caps and wiring them up to the correct cylinders?

Jack E/NJ

[37ford4dr]

this was my solution to that....just match up numbers with the ones in the cap

[George/Maine]

Match up the number yes ,if they were numbered.I think after market caps are not marked.
Up top there is a notch pass side, top left 1,top right 4,lower left 2,lower right is 3
other side drivers side.
As looking from fender notch up top left to front of car 7,right 5, left 6 right 8. The inner rotor takes 1,3,5,6,cyclinders,outer 4,2,7,8 cylinders.
This is very confusing but needs some proof.
TDC the rotor should be at pass side up top at 11 oclock wire the rest as noted.

[Jack E/NJ]

Yep, that'll help keep things in order! Or even color coded wires. I just use scotch tape number labels.

Jack E/NJ

[Jack E/NJ]

George/Maine>>>This is very confusing but needs some proof. TDC the rotor should be at pass side up top at 11 oclock wire the rest as noted.>>>


Yeah, George, just to add to all the confusion, I use #5 cylinder to time everthing, even down to my homemade timing degree marks on the crank & block. That's because for some reason I seem to find it easier to remember the GM & Chrysler cylinder numbering system in figuring the flathead firing order 1-8-7-3-6-5-4-2. Most older GM & Chrysler v8s are the same except for the 4-7 switch. So I could actually go without numbered caps or scotch tape if I really had to. So with the firing order burned into my head, I just have to make sure to two rotors look like they're pointing at the right wire as they go around. 8^)

Jack E/NJ

[George/Maine]

Yes 5 would be drivers side back top and fiirng order from there.
I think the best thing to do is make sure number 1 is were it should be.Then ever 90 degs 1/4 turn the rotor next 5 can be seen,and so on ever 1/4 turn two times around, for one full 8 cylinders.cam turn 1/2 to crankshaft.
Now if the rotor is wrong,i don,t know if it will run starting with outer rotor calling that number 1.
Realy need a dist in front of you.

[Jack E/NJ]

George/Maine>>>Realy need a dist in front of you.>>>

Yep!!! I guess we'll have to wait for the result of Bubbas investigation. Then we can debate the pros and cons of the 4-7 switch in the firing order for the flathead vs older GM/Xler v8s. 8^)

Jack E/NJ