11-14-2015, 01:49 AM | #141 |
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Oh yeah, I know all about rights of everyone to express themselves. We were allowed to come on base in civilian clothes and then change to avoid being called baby killers and being spit at if we had to stop for gas or something. I was in during a very unpopular time to be in the service.( 70-76). I agree people have all kinds of opinions on any given subject and it is good to hear them, as it tells you a lot about them.
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11-14-2015, 02:12 AM | #142 |
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I agree.
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11-14-2015, 05:41 AM | #143 |
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First of all, this is a Ford flathead forum. It's purpose is to discuss ... Ford flatheads.
Now we want to split the Fordbarn into different classes of members, those who served and are a "notch above" ... and those who didn't. That will help us discuss flatheads better. Funny how quickly some of us can take the good we did and turn it into division and hostility. Sorry I mentioned it ... but, it's still a bad idea. (I served and would have done it for free, but they said it would be unAmerican not to take the money.)
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11-14-2015, 06:07 AM | #144 |
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Drafted US Army rank E-4 3/4/70 honorably discharged 11/3/71
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11-14-2015, 08:58 AM | #145 |
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11-14-2015, 09:57 AM | #146 |
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It's interesting to me just how many of us Barners are former military. It must have something to do with the typical age of the guys interested in flatheads and flathead-powered rigs. I believe this common thread is one of the many contributors to the civility and sense of camaraderie that are so prevalent on the Barn. 'Proud to be a member. |
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11-14-2015, 11:39 AM | #148 | |
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Good for you, Hoop!....
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11-14-2015, 11:40 AM | #149 |
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Since I was the guy who made the suggestion of an optional service badge, I should point out that there are more badges than just military. There are Firefighter and Law Enforcement badges, EMT, and if somebody isn't proud of having served, or wants to forget about it, of course that's the choice they make.
I did not receive a PM back from Ryan, so I have no idea how he feels about it, but for a respectful discussion of what could have turned brutal, I think everyone is on the same page here, which pretty much is an indication of the respect the question deserves. The badges pictured below (There are more) are a little bigger than what is used on the other forum I post on, and it is attached at the bottom left, below the avatar, so folks can get a handle on you beyond your general location.
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The only badge that should matter on this forum is the Classic Ford V8 logo -
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11-14-2015, 03:26 PM | #151 |
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What about the "Ruptured Duck", that was issued to a GI who was honorably discharged after WWII. After all, we are honoring Veterans, not V8s.
Sorry. I cannot post a photo. Look it up on Google if you don't know what it looks like.
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Why would that be the only badge that matters here on an early Ford discussion forum?
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11-14-2015, 04:35 PM | #153 |
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Here you go Lawson. I still have my uncles WWII uniform with that honorable discharge pin attached. I was not sure what that pin represented until I looked this up on Google. Thank you! Learned something new.
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11-14-2015, 05:35 PM | #154 |
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USAQMC 2lt to Capt, USASAHQ Pac, Helemano, HA, 65-68, 9th Log Cmd, Korat Thailand 68-69, Instructer, Ft Benning GA 70. back on AD in 92 with 416 ENGCMD, Chicago, IL and 4th Army HQ, Ft Sheridan, IL then to 8th Army HQ. Korea 88-89 and USARC in Forest Park GA 91. Retired as a COL and most have figured I was a REMF on my assignments.
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11-14-2015, 05:41 PM | #155 |
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Prof Henry,
Thank you very much for your attempt to recognize the Veterans on this site. As it appears, most of the Veterans served when our society had little regard for those who served. The locale of my duty locations loathed those in military uniform as well. Today, our country as a whole honors those who have served and are serving. Thank you again for recognizing our Veterans. Your Thank You is greatly appreciated! And I thank all those who served before me and after me! Norm |
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Why do I suggest that veterans are a "notch above the rest of us"? I'm not a veteran so they are a notch above me. Here's why I say that.
We all have a job that serves someone. Often it seems that it is just our employer and the owners/stockholders of our employer. Usually we are also serving members of the public in some direct or indirect way. That's how most of our jobs are. I'm not suggesting that everyone employed by one of the branches of the armed forces thought every moment about the higher, patriotic cause in which they were involved. Many probably just thought that they were "just doing their job" like anyone else. But, who were they serving when they were "just doing their job"? Sure, they were contributing to whatever goals their unit or branch of the service had. But, ultimately, when all is said and done, they were all serving humanity as a whole and the cause of preserving freedom in the world for that humanity. To, me, who did not so serve, that is a higher level of service than anyone not a veteran has ever given. Whether every veteran who served thought about that higher cause every day doesn't matter. They did it. And, for that, I am eternally grateful and will honor them in my heart always. Yes, even Hoop, who doesn't really care about that honor. The story of "Saving Private Ryan" comes to mind as an illustration of how every veteran, in their own little job, helped save some private or public Ryan somewhere, including me. I salute you.
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Several years ago, an older man thanked me for my service. He had a tear in his eye as he said. I tried to join, but I was 4F." I too had a tear in y eye, a good man.
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11-15-2015, 05:36 AM | #158 |
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"Yes, even Hoop, who doesn't really care about that honor."
Where did you get that idea???? Please do not speak for me. There are only a few of you that get it. Using military service to create a separate, "elite" group here on the Fordbarn is not an honor. Answering to role call on Veterans Day here recognizes our vets and is entirely appropriate. We don't need a permanent "button" to separate Fordbarn into "us" and "them." I did not serve to shine my own ass ... or to make myself a notch above. I always had the impression that I was doing it for someone else. Military SERVICE, to me, means serving others, all Americans ... not serving myself. Unifying America is a serious challenge. Start here.
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USAF 1986-1992. KC-135(A model) and KC-10 pilot. It wasn't just a job, it was an adventure!
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Hi,
I am only an expat by birthright, My father took his basic training in Louisiana and served as a medic in WWll . As a Canadian, I am Humbled to be in Your Presence, Thank You for everything that you (as a US citizen) have done for us, for all of us, in the name of Democracy. There are no words that can begin to describe mine, nor my countries gratitude for the decades of un-righteous physical and mental abuse that you and your country have taken upon themselves in the name of Democracy. For Others, For Righteousness, For Democracy..... Thank You. moe . |
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