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Old 05-14-2017, 03:57 PM   #141
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Wow has this turned around... for the better.

Tod check out this thread;
https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthrea...6253&showall=1

Looks like he has been working up a 3D drawing of the 59a.
I'm not sure that helps me. Looks like quite a while back.

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Old 05-14-2017, 04:28 PM   #142
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I'm not sure that helps me. Looks like quite a while back.

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Rays block model is complete. hopefully you can use what he has for pattern and core work. would save a lot of time.
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Old 05-14-2017, 04:38 PM   #143
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Rays block model is complete. hopefully you can use what he has for pattern and core work. would save a lot of time.
We're working on that right now. If I can get it yet today I will be able to go over it tomorrow and see if I can use it.

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Old 05-14-2017, 04:42 PM   #144
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We're working on that right now. If I can get it yet today I will be able to go over it tomorrow and see if I can use it.

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Ill keep my fingers crossed. keep us posted...
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Old 05-14-2017, 04:45 PM   #145
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Rays block model is complete. hopefully you can use what he has for pattern and core work. would save a lot of time.
Be CAREFUL here, guys! If I remember correctly, he created drawings from pictures that he solicited. If so, that accomplishes nothing! Quite the accomplishment, for sure, but not the way to "reverse-engineer" a new block. That's kind'a how the Ruskies built our B-29, bullet holes and all. DD
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Old 05-14-2017, 04:48 PM   #146
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Be CAREFUL here, guys! If I remember correctly, he created drawings from pictures that he solicited. If so, that accomplishes nothing! Quite the accomplishment, for sure, but not the way to "reverse-engineer" a new block. That's kind'a how the Ruskies built our B-29. DD
From what I have seen it appears to be fairly accurate. Seems to be some mods in the intake and exhaust passages. Only Ray will know for sure.
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Old 05-14-2017, 05:01 PM   #147
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From what I have seen it appears to be fairly accurate. Seems to be some mods in the intake and exhaust passages. Only Ray will know for sure.
Once I have it I can double check it against my block and see how everything looks.

There will still be a lot of work to do even with a good model.

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Old 05-14-2017, 07:31 PM   #148
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I'm not sure that helps me. Looks like quite a while back.

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That link does not show flat32's work. That was part of flysafe's early work in Portugal, which he has suspended. He and I were communicating on that one for purely a rough model. Nothing compared to flat32's accuracy.Totally different purpose in mind.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:36 PM   #149
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That link does not show flat32's work. That was part of flysafe's early work in Portugal, which he has suspended. He and I were communicating on that one for purely a rough model. Nothing compared to flat32's accuracy.Totally different purpose in mind.
I have Ray's model but it is in STL format which is not something I can work with to do what I need to do. I either need an actual solid model from Solidworks or an iges file. We'll get there or I will just have to model it myself. No big deal.

How do I get signed up to that flathead forum you are on Russ? The one that asks what year they quit making V8s in Canada? No matter what I answer I can't get in. Figure there may be some in there that would be interested.

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Old 05-14-2017, 09:24 PM   #150
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If you convert the STL file will it be accurate enough for you? I can read STL files and save them as a single SW or IGES solid. Or STEP. Can read other file types as well, if you have it in another format.

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Old 05-14-2017, 09:37 PM   #151
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If you convert the STL file will it be accurate enough for you? I can read STL files and save them as a single SW or IGES solid. Or STEP. Can read other file types as well, if you have it in another format.
What program are you using to do this??
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:46 PM   #152
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:23 PM   #153
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I know the blue prints are available From Ford, because several people here have them. Just check with Ford, they were very helpful when I was there back in the late 80's.
You know, trying to plese everybody with all the variations of this block, might lead to no block at all. Besides, it won't be an original anyway. I wish you well.
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:28 PM   #154
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I agree with Ron on this. I won't discount any person's abilities to do this but that's not the issue here. I would settle for what ever is produced regardless of my own wants and needs. Better one type than none at all. This is a monumental challenge and one that would put the flathead back on the map.

Production hasn't been successfully done since 1991.

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Old 05-15-2017, 01:07 PM   #155
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Just a reminder of core complexity.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:11 PM   #156
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That's an interesting picture!
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:21 PM   #157
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Whats really amazing is that Henry got it done 85 years ago
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:40 PM   #158
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You might want to talk to John Lawson, he wrote the book "Flathead facts" probably knows more about these blocks than all the rest of us put together.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:57 PM   #159
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Things are under way. Thanks to Ray for the model he sent over. I'm not sure how much I can/will use but it is there for reference if nothing else. After getting some other stuff finished up I will be moving on this. Be nice to have a casting by the end of the year.

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Just a reminder of core complexity.
No wonder there is so much sand and wire hiding in our blocks. I agree, that's a very interesting photo.
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