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olebmw · 08-12-2019, 11:56 AM

I've read all I can find on brake rebuilding,but haven't found any info on the
shoes, other than the pins need to be tight.
I have a bucket of old shoes and most of the pin holes measure around .006"
-.010". I installed a pair on the front and they seem to rock back and forth a lot at the center of shoe,but no noticeable up and down play. Not having any experience, I don't know if its time for new shoes or if the new ones are any better.
I'm rebuild with new drums and original style part and want the best stop I can get. Any advice appreciated.

loubob · 08-12-2019, 05:26 PM

Do you live within an area where there is a Model A Club? Contact the club and see if they can direct you to someone familiar w/'A' brakes for help.
You could also order new brakes w/shoes from a vendor such as Brattons or Snyders.
New brake shoes are an inexpensive fix.

mfarley · 08-13-2019, 08:41 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...72.m2749.l2649

$66 for four brand new shoes with bonded linings and shipping.

olebmw · 08-13-2019, 12:57 PM

I now see that Bratton's offers a new shoe.
I had talked to another vendor and they offered relined good original shoe.
I tried to find out the pin hole diameter between a good shoe and a cull,but no luck. Thanks for the help.

ryanheacox · 08-13-2019, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfarley

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...72.m2749.l2649

$66 for four brand new shoes with bonded linings and shipping.

That's a great price, I might have to pick up a set or two just to have on hand. Just for comparison, Brattons sells one shoe for $31.

JoeCB · 08-13-2019, 10:21 PM

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Just wondering …. what is the "pin hole" that measures only .006 - .010 on a brake shoe? I'm trying to visualize a shoe and can't image any feature that tiny.

Joe B

olebmw · 08-14-2019, 12:06 PM

I noticed after I posted I wasn't very clear on that.
The brake pin holes in the shoes I was planning on using are .006"-.010"
out of round.
Has anyone tried the 66$ shoes from ebay? Are they good quality?

JoeCB · 08-14-2019, 08:11 PM

6 to 10 thou out of round , now that makes more sense

how about clean up with reamer and go with oversize pins? such a thing available?

Joe B

redmodelt · 08-14-2019, 09:12 PM

Even if you reamed the holes in the shoes, you would then have to ream the rollers and adjuster holes too. I think the rollers are hardened. If you could not fine the oversized pins, you would have to make your own (they may be hardened too?) and because of the head on the pin that holds the rollers is what rolls on the track.
By the way my OP is, that amount of wear is hardly anything. My check it to use a new pin to see how it fits, if not overly sloppy I use them.

olebmw · 08-15-2019, 11:02 AM

I found an older post that mentioned that the pins should be tight in the shoes and not spin.

mfarley · 08-15-2019, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olebmw

I noticed after I posted I wasn't very clear on that.
The brake pin holes in the shoes I was planning on using are .006"-.010"
out of round.
Has anyone tried the 66$ shoes from ebay? Are they good quality?

I bought a set, but they are not on the car yet. Need to get my drums to Randy Gross and back first...

08-12-2019, 11:56 AM	#1
olebmw Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 23	brake shoe inspection I've read all I can find on brake rebuilding,but haven't found any info on the shoes, other than the pins need to be tight. I have a bucket of old shoes and most of the pin holes measure around .006" -.010". I installed a pair on the front and they seem to rock back and forth a lot at the center of shoe,but no noticeable up and down play. Not having any experience, I don't know if its time for new shoes or if the new ones are any better. I'm rebuild with new drums and original style part and want the best stop I can get. Any advice appreciated.

08-12-2019, 05:26 PM	#2
loubob Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Syracuse,NY Posts: 264	Re: brake shoe inspection Do you live within an area where there is a Model A Club? Contact the club and see if they can direct you to someone familiar w/'A' brakes for help. You could also order new brakes w/shoes from a vendor such as Brattons or Snyders. New brake shoes are an inexpensive fix.

08-13-2019, 08:41 AM	#3
mfarley Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 84	Re: brake shoe inspection https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...72.m2749.l2649 $66 for four brand new shoes with bonded linings and shipping.

08-13-2019, 12:57 PM	#4
olebmw Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 23	Re: brake shoe inspection I now see that Bratton's offers a new shoe. I had talked to another vendor and they offered relined good original shoe. I tried to find out the pin hole diameter between a good shoe and a cull,but no luck. Thanks for the help.

08-13-2019, 10:21 PM	#6
JoeCB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Farmington MI Posts: 284	Re: brake shoe inspection Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Just wondering …. what is the "pin hole" that measures only .006 - .010 on a brake shoe? I'm trying to visualize a shoe and can't image any feature that tiny. Joe B

08-14-2019, 12:06 PM	#7
olebmw Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 23	Re: brake shoe inspection I noticed after I posted I wasn't very clear on that. The brake pin holes in the shoes I was planning on using are .006"-.010" out of round. Has anyone tried the 66$ shoes from ebay? Are they good quality?

08-14-2019, 08:11 PM	#8
JoeCB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Farmington MI Posts: 284	Re: brake shoe inspection 6 to 10 thou out of round , now that makes more sense how about clean up with reamer and go with oversize pins? such a thing available? Joe B

08-14-2019, 09:12 PM	#9
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: brake shoe inspection Even if you reamed the holes in the shoes, you would then have to ream the rollers and adjuster holes too. I think the rollers are hardened. If you could not fine the oversized pins, you would have to make your own (they may be hardened too?) and because of the head on the pin that holds the rollers is what rolls on the track. By the way my OP is, that amount of wear is hardly anything. My check it to use a new pin to see how it fits, if not overly sloppy I use them. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

08-15-2019, 11:02 AM	#10
olebmw Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 23	Re: brake shoe inspection I found an older post that mentioned that the pins should be tight in the shoes and not spin.