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Old 11-02-2024, 06:51 AM   #1
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hello guys i must to change my rear wheels bearings,on my 1956 lincoln premiere, what tools do you use to pull out them? thanks for help
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It has to be taken to a machine shop to have the bearings pressed off and on.

Don't forget new axle seals.
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The pads do not retract, they are knocked back a few thousands by the rotor run-out. Nothing in the brake system retracts the pads, no springs nothing. You need to go to another forum where people will believe your misinformation. I'm done here. Have fun
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And then change the brake shoes and then while apart clean everything up and then change the rear end fluid and while you’re under there lube the zert fittings and then spray a little oil around the leaf springs and then check the undercoating and then…...

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hello guys i must to change my rear wheels bearings,on my 1956 lincoln premiere, what tools do you use to pull out them? thanks for help
In theory, just remove the brake drums and remove the 4 bolts holding the rear axle retaining plates to the backing plates and axle housing, then pull the axle shaft out.
In the real world, the outer bearing race will be stuck/rusted in the axle housing. First, put the drum on loosely and backwards with 3 nuts, and use like a slide hammer to pop the axle out. Next, rent or borrow a heavy slide hammer with an axle flange. Next, heat the axle housing red hot at the bearing race and hammer away. Finally, carefully cut the bearing apart with an acetylene torch without cutting into the axle or housing!
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First, put the drum on loosely and backwards with 3 nuts, and use like a slide hammer to pop the axle out. Next, rent or borrow a heavy slide hammer with an axle flange. Next, heat the axle housing red hot at the bearing race and hammer away. Finally, carefully cut the bearing apart with an acetylene torch without cutting into the axle or housing!
Nothing like a little SHOCK AND AWE. A BFH and a HOT WRENCH.

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The pads do not retract, they are knocked back a few thousands by the rotor run-out. Nothing in the brake system retracts the pads, no springs nothing. You need to go to another forum where people will believe your misinformation. I'm done here. Have fun
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Old 11-05-2024, 10:50 PM   #6
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when I change rear brgs I drill a small hole in the retainer ring part way thru, split it with a chisel, place a rag over the brg and hit the outer race with a hammer to break it off. heat the inner race a bit with a propane torch and drive the race off with a chisel. works every time. Torch on the inner race, trouble if you're not careful!
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Old 11-06-2024, 05:20 PM   #7
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We use a angle grinder &cut into the locking collar/retainer enough so that it removes easily under a 20 ton press.
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i m looking for the where the best site to buy a wheel bearings kit for my 1956 lincoln premiere
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we use a angle grinder &cut into the locking collar/retainer enough so that it removes easily under a 20 ton press.
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i m looking for the where the best site to buy a wheel bearings kit for my 1956 lincoln premiere
Quality is most important, and that is hard to find today. Be careful what you order as you are over the pond.

Here is NATIONAL BEARING - https://www.sixityauto.com/2-pc-nati...htzg6mhke.html
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The pads do not retract, they are knocked back a few thousands by the rotor run-out. Nothing in the brake system retracts the pads, no springs nothing. You need to go to another forum where people will believe your misinformation. I'm done here. Have fun
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Old 11-11-2024, 12:55 PM   #11
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KULTULZ it's sold out
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Try Rock Auto for the bearings. Might even try ebay - never know what can find there.
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Bearing part number: BCA 88128-R, or just ask for 88128R (R denotes/means retainer),
NOT ALL bearing kits inc /are supplied with the retainer you have to &must use a new locking collar/retainer/shrink ring when fitting/installing new rear wheel bearings,
BEWARE NOT ALL of the USA bearing manufactuer 88128 in USA SOME if NOT MOST are made in china, i'd look/search for N.O.S. FORD/BCA/FAFNIR/NDH/L&S/MRC brands.
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I was trying to source a quality bearing, not some off-shore crap.

NATIONAL is a known quality manufacturer but seems to be on back order.

DENNIS CARPENTER advertises USA but also is on back order.

https://www.mustangdepot.ca/dennis-c...bronco-1949-66

The FORD PN is 8M 1225-B for the bearing (not incl retainer) and B6A 1190-A for the seal.

Let me see if I can find the NATIONAL PN and I will get back.

ALSO READ - https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/for...d-ford-license

SHOWS HERE ALSO - https://www.lincolnoldparts.com/bear...rear-axle.html

But I would ask from where they source it.
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The pads do not retract, they are knocked back a few thousands by the rotor run-out. Nothing in the brake system retracts the pads, no springs nothing. You need to go to another forum where people will believe your misinformation. I'm done here. Have fun
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And then change the brake shoes and then while apart clean everything up and then change the rear end fluid and while you’re under there lube the zert fittings and then spray a little oil around the leaf springs and then check the undercoating and then…...

Things just seem like they snowball eh Kultulz?
I think he just did the brakes, another off-shore adventure. I would replace both sides and service the fluid and make sure the rear axle vent is functional.

Just one seal leads to all of this ...
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The pads do not retract, they are knocked back a few thousands by the rotor run-out. Nothing in the brake system retracts the pads, no springs nothing. You need to go to another forum where people will believe your misinformation. I'm done here. Have fun
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what do you think about skf ?
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... what do you think about skf ?
They seem to be a quality product. I have never used them.

Are they readily available where you are?
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The pads do not retract, they are knocked back a few thousands by the rotor run-out. Nothing in the brake system retracts the pads, no springs nothing. You need to go to another forum where people will believe your misinformation. I'm done here. Have fun
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SKF & alot if not MOST euro/uk/usa brand of rear axle/hub/wheel bearings DON'T manufactuer them in there respective countries, i found that out recently when i asked/enquired with SKF on a double row sealed ball bearing they don't make that series bearing as is the case with MOST IF NOT ALL of the major bearing companies NOT making them (bearings) in there countries of origin, i'd advise&suggest looking&finding N.O.S.. stock FORD/BCA/FAFNIR/FEDERAL/L&S/MRC/NDH/SKF.
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SKF & alot if not MOST euro/uk/usa brand of rear axle/hub/wheel bearings DON'T manufactuer them in there respective countries, i found that out recently when i asked/enquired with SKF on a double row sealed ball bearing they don't make that series bearing as is the case with MOST IF NOT ALL of the major bearing companies NOT making them (bearings) in there countries of origin, i'd advise&suggest looking&finding N.O.S.. stock FORD/BCA/FAFNIR/FEDERAL/L&S/MRC/NDH/SKF.
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Old 11-13-2024, 01:12 PM   #20
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i would like to find them, on new old stock but it's very hard, i never seen , i try to buy all parts for my car in nos or best quality
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