Flat 6

[JSeery]

Photos Posted for amodel25 (sorry about taking so long, busy day!)

[41Joe]

Amodel25, that is one fine looking 6. I am jealous of your finned aluminum head. Nice headers. Any pictures of the header modification?

[JSeery]

Amodel25 will have to provide a description of the photos.

[amodel25]

The center and right pictures on the top row and the center picture on the bottom row are the 226 that is the original engine in my avatar. I rebuilt it in 1999 and it has 40,000+ miles on it. The exhaust on this one is a split original manifold

The rest of the pictures are the 254 that I am planning for Bonneville. I have not started it yet but soon.

Unfortunately, I did not take any pictures during modification of the header. I started with a Classic Inlines header for a 60's Falcon or Mustang 200 cu. in. I cut the flange off flush, heat adjusted the port spacing as described earlier. The 200 outlet is at a 30 degree or so from vertical facing down. The flat 6 outlet is vertical. I cut six 30 degree radius sections from some 1-1/4" mandrel bend tubing and pieced them in between the revised header and an exhaust/intake flanges from Victory Speed Equipment. We welded it up solid and I spent a few hours with a Dremel smoothing everything out. I built a single 4 bbl. intake manifold off the same flanges. The flanges are plasma cut in the same pattern as the intake/exhaust gaskets.

Sorry for the quality of the pictures. They were done in a closed garage, after dark, with a telephone.

[41Joe]

Amodel25,
What are you running for a distributor?

[amodel25]

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On the 226 I am running the stock distributor with a Pertronix kit. It is still full vacuum advance (Load-a-matic) but runs great even with two carbs. All the experts say it should not work but it has for years, good acceleration, 20 mpg on the highway. They all said if it works, leave it alone.

On the 254 I used a Mallory dual point off a 230/250 Chevy six. The mounting hub is the same diameter and I spliced the Flat 6 lower shaft.

[edhd58]

Seth. I pmd you

[Pete/Ct.]

Bought an original 50 F1 with a flathead six, runs like a watch, still driving it. Used to run a stock car in the 70s with flathead six, small track, gave the v8s a run for their money.

[CarlG]

"Back in the day", my Dad bought a new '52 Ford with a V8 engine. It never worked up to his satisfaction, ran hot, and whatever else. Several years later for a second car, he found and bought a '50 with the flathead 6. I had just received my license, and drove that '50 6cyl like there was no tomorrow. When my Dad would compare the '52 V8 with that '50 6cyl, he would take the 6cyl any day. My friends often thought that that '50 had a hopped up V8 in it until I popped the hood to show them.

[flatford8]

amodel25...NICE !!!!.....Do a video when you fire it up.....you earned bragging rights....keep us posted when you make it to Bonneville.....Mark

[Ingram 33vicky]

Have a factory rebuilt (.020-.020 rods mains and bore) G series engine in my 36 woody. Firewall stamping indicated a 6-cyl. when new so I went that route in my restoration. Runs like a top and with a Columbia will cruise at 60-65 with no problems.
Can anyone on this site tell how many 46 woodys were factory installed 6-cyl?
Am planning on having the car at Bakersfield V-8 meet in October.
Paul

[Ingram 33vicky]

Misprint, I have a 1946 woodie, NOT a 36
Paul

[V8ER]

I saw that car at Bakersfield. It's a great car with a great story.

[Ingram 33vicky]

Had a great time at the Western V8 meet in Bakersfield. Managed to get through the judging with only 24 points deducted. Will work those areas over and show the car at the 2017 meet in Salem Oregon. Only a short hop from home so will drive to the meet.

Thanks to all who stopped by in Bakersfield and who encouraged me to build the car.
Paul

[Vintage Copper 47]

Originally Posted by amodel25

My avatar has a .060" over 226, Nicson 2x1 intake, Knudsen head, 3/4 cam, Pertronix ignition. It has 40,000+ miles since rebuilt and runs very good.

I'm building a .060" over 254 ("M" engine) , Ross forged pistons, Isky 400 Jr. cam, Cyclone head, modified Falcon six header, home built 4 bbl intake, Mallory dual point distributor. I'm putting it in a '49 coupe that I hope to run at Bonneville next year (three years into a 12 month project).

I have a lot of fun with these engines. Speed equipment is available but rare and pricey.

I'd post a picture of the "H" if I could figure out how.

AMODEL25;
Where can I get a Nicson 2x1 intake & a header for my SIX?

[amodel25]

Originally Posted by Vintage Copper 47

AMODEL25;
Where can I get a Nicson 2x1 intake & a header for my SIX?

I found the intake at Pate Swap Meet in 1992. I built the header as described. Unless Red's starts making them again, nobody is making them commercially.


Finally got the car to Bonneville this year. First run was 94 mph on my Rookie license run. Second run was officially 107 mph but I was actually doing about 112 or so when a cylinder leaned out and melted a hole in my Cyclone Aluminum Head . Have not figured out what caused it but I'll be back next year.

[Vintage Copper 47]

Originally Posted by jboren

The flathead 6 is one of the best kept secrets of the flathead Fords. It has better lower end torque, almost the same horsepower and will out run an 8 until you get close to top end. It does not have the overheating and cracking issues that seem to plague the 8's and they are great running motors. I have 48 F3 with the H model. If you can find one of the more rare 254 M engines then you actually have more overall torque and horsepower than the 239's. The H or the M are the preferred motors over the G. Just a later/better design IMHO.

jb

JB.. what modifications are necessary to put a 254 into a 47 ford sedan? I have the G model 226 in now.