Dropping the oil Pan

[Ford1930]

Hello ALL, what do I need to know when I drop the Oil Pan with the Engine still in place? What do I have to take in Mind and use?

[Gunmetal blue2]

First disconnect the battery, put emergency brake on. there is a flat head screw straight down from distibutor by the oil pan. This will need to come out, they have a fitting that you screw in this hole with a bolt going through it. This bolt you will turn into it hits some thing (that some thing is your oil pump). you are now ready to drain the oil out of you A. Then take out all the bolts holding the oil pan on to the block. Can I ask why are you droping the oil pan?

[Richard in Anaheim CA]

Drain the oil for sure.
Disconnect battery

Be prepared for a big mess. Have lots of newspapers, rags etc. Wear disposable clothing

Jack the front wheels up and support with jack stands.

Enlist some help to turn the wheels back and forth to clear the tie rod

Support oil pump with bolt or special tool through the hole in side of block

That will get you started. You will get lots of other advice

[1crosscut]

The oil pump slips up into the bottom of the block and is held in place by a spring at the bottom of the pump that pushes against the oil pan. When the pan is lowered the pump can and usually will come loose from the block at the same time. If it doesn't come out with the pan get a hand on it as soon as you can so it doesn't drop out of the block afterwards hitting the floor damaging it. You don't necessarily need the special bolt to hold the oil pump in place when removing the pan but it is very handy when putting the pan back on.

[Synchro909]

For ease when removing the sump in the future, I replace the hex headed bolts with screws with slotted heads. It makes life sooo much easier espec ially accross the front of the engine and up near the rear main bearing.

[larrys40]

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Originally Posted by 1crosscut

The oil pump slips up into the bottom of the block and is held in place by a spring at the bottom of the pump that pushes against the oil pan. When the pan is lowered the pump can and usually will come loose from the block at the same time. If it doesn't come out with the pan get a hand on it as soon as you can so it doesn't drop out of the block afterwards hitting the floor damaging it. You don't necessarily need the special bolt to hold the oil pump in place when removing the pan but it is very handy when putting the pan back on.

Glad someone said it. There’st absolutely no need to hold the oil pump in place when removing the pan. Good response crosscut. When it’s time to go back use the tool and the oil pan Helpers.

Just did one yesterday. Make are you get all your gaskets fit and sealed down to help hold them in place while installing the pan.
Larry shepard

[J Franklin]

A small paper shim to wedge the oil pump in will hold it up during reinstall.

[PC/SR]

This is getting more complicated than it needs to be. After blocking the rear wheels, First, First, jack up the front wheels, turn the wheels full right, or left, so the tie rod is out of the way for access to the front pan bolts, and set the tires on a 4x4. You are not going to get easy access to the front pan bolts unless the wheels are turned fully and the tie rod is out of the way. (Sometimes it happens over the years that the engine moves forward and even with the tie rod moved the pan bolts are not easily accessible. This is a problem. Write if it happens to you.)

Keep the wheels up on the 4x4 blocks which makes it much easier to work on whatever it is you are working on after the pan is removed.
Don't worry about the oil pump on removal. Reassembly is a different issue, write again when you want to do it, it involves the pump, and particularly proper placement of the gaskets. You will have leaks if the gaskets are not installed properly. There are threads on this.

[Bob Bidonde]

The oil pump should come down inside of the oil pan as it is somewhat trapped by the dip tray. When installing the pan, put the pump into the block 1st and secure it with a bolt in the hole provided in the side of the block.

[Big hammer]

Reading the title puts a smile on my face :-) , wouldn't the engine smash the pan, or when you turn the pan over and drop it to remove the dipper tray look out for a big greasy mess!

[Ford1930]

My 1929 Phaeton comes out of a Museum and was idle for quite some time. I pulled the dipstick and found good oil, no water in it. I didn't drain the pan yet. But in case there is much sludge I would probably have to clean the oil pan out.

[Kurt in NJ]

When it has been sitting a long time and the oil looks clean it means the dirt settled to the bottom