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Old 04-07-2018, 07:56 PM   #1
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I would like feed back on the sleeve that is inserted into the manifold and exhaust pipe. Good idea or bad idea. I would think I could purchase one locally can someone give me the of dimensions. Thx..
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:01 PM   #2
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Shouldn't need if everything is correct with a Aries muffler and good manifold!
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:39 PM   #3
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I don't have a Aries muffler nor good manifold.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:15 PM   #4
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I can't say my muffler or manifold is in the best condition, I used one without any gasket or sealer goop and I have a seal with no leaks. It worked for me.
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Old 04-07-2018, 10:32 PM   #5
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FWIW
Look at the fit up of the connection at the exhaust manifold and the exhaust pipe, there is some latitude for movement, small but it is not a rigid connection.

Putting a sleeve in the exhaust pipe where it connects to the exhaust manifold makes that connection rigid.

Keep in mind that the front engine mount allows for some vertical movement.

Also the exhaust tail pipe is in a clamp at the rear of the vehicle.

The advice of one our senior club members is that the sleeve will put stress on the exhaust manifold, and he does not recommend using a sleeve.
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:18 PM   #6
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I have tried all kinds of fixes for the pipe to manifold connection, and I have found no satisfaction with any of them. You probably don't want to hear this, but taking some time to reform your pipes mating flange is what I have found to be the remedy. Also, the bend has to be right at the elbow, or it will create a gap somewhere and never seal. You are a senior member here, so I'm guessing this isn't your first Model A rodeo, and you already know all of this. It is tedious, dirty work, but the only true fix I have found to be affective.
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Old 04-07-2018, 11:28 PM   #7
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The sleeve is a slip fit. If the flange and clamp were moving around you would soon wear that area and would have a leak. The clamp holding the header pipe to exhaust manifold is tight and should not be moving. Any expansion/movement is at the holder clamp at the rear.
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It can't hurt
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He ONLY asked for SIZES, not 7 SERMONS!!! Doesn't anyone know how to READ. Folks get stuck in rhetoric or "HOW GOOD THEY DID THEIRS"---Life is not a pissing contest!
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Old 04-08-2018, 09:19 AM   #10
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C'mon, Bill, lighten up. . . . and read. He asked for feedback, not just measurements.
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Old 04-08-2018, 02:07 PM   #11
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I think the best idea would be to measure the parts on your particular car and have a muffler shop make you one to fit. Better yet let them make it and install it for you. I once had the bad idea to put a "bullet style" glass pack muffler on my car and had them make it up with the entrance to the exhaust pipe as an integral sleeve that entered the manifold. It really worked great except the sound it made out the back!
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Old 04-08-2018, 04:04 PM   #12
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Have to assume that your having sealing problems. From a different attack angle, be sure that the 2 piece clamp is not flipped over. The long legs on both clamp parts goes on the bottom with the short lip or leg goes on the iron manifold gland ring above. The sleeved insert only goes along for the ride being sandwiched between casting and down pipe.
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Old 04-08-2018, 04:19 PM   #13
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The clamp is installed correctly. I have a alignment problem but for now I just want to do a band aid. I have a manifold heater and there is a lifter type noise coming through the heater opening. I want to eliminate the exhaust as part of my troubleshooting. The noise is very annoying and I am sure when I close the firewall for summer I wont hear it but for now....
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Old 04-08-2018, 04:23 PM   #14
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As a band-aid fix, just remove the clamp and wrap 2-3 turns of a 2 1/2" wide strip of tinfoil around the pipe and manifold joint, and then reinstall the clamp. This fix might last a year or so. To stop the lifter noise I would suggest adjusting the lash.
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Old 04-08-2018, 04:59 PM   #15
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The lifter tick noise could be the exhaust manifold gasket to the block is leaking. I just replaced mine, and it was annoying to listen to.
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If you are using a manifold heater you certainly don't want a carbon monoxide exhaust leak!
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Old 04-08-2018, 06:42 PM   #17
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The exhaust tick is what I am trying to eliminate. If it is not the exhaust then I have to look some where else. The engine has been rebuilt and I have reset the lifter clearances but still a click/tick you cannot hear it at idle but going down the road it is annoying. As far as carbon monoxide I have that in mind also.
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Old 04-08-2018, 07:22 PM   #18
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Try advancing and retarding the spark lever and listen to ticking if it changes pitch then it is exhaust related.

If you are getting ticking noise from hot air outlet of heater then it might be a crack in heater manifold. This is a common problem ...

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Old 04-08-2018, 07:35 PM   #19
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Or a rattle? If it was exhaust noise to imitate a lifter, it would most likely be 1 port leaking.
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Old 04-08-2018, 10:02 PM   #20
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I had one of those sleeves once to solve a connection problem that I had. Turns out the flange on my exhaust pipe was not flared enough. I took it to a muffler shop where they made the flange larger and I have not had a minute's trouble since. That was two years ago.
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