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1929 · 10-30-2015, 10:38 PM

is there an easier way to loosen and tighten the two middle front oil pan bolts?, cant fit the sockets, too tight between the timming cover and the front crossmember.

Mike V. Florida · 10-30-2015, 10:52 PM

I found 1/4" drive sockets to be thinner and work for me.

daveymc29 · 10-30-2015, 11:14 PM

Bit the 1/4 inch socket set works well and you are less apt to break a bolts. Use the 1/4 inch on the entire pan.

Mike V. Florida · 10-30-2015, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveymc29

Bit the 1/4 inch socket set works well and you are less apt to break a bolts. Use the 1/4 inch on the entire pan.

Yea, you're only looking at a few foot lbs.

Tom Wesenberg · 10-31-2015, 04:06 AM

A 1/4" drive and also having a wobbly extension helps.

Patrick L. · 10-31-2015, 05:23 AM

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A 3/8 drive wobble socket will also work.

1929 · 10-31-2015, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tbirdtbird

must have float-a-motors

once they are out use a cutoff wheel to grind a slot in them so that next time you can use a screwdriver in there......

I have the float-a-motors, cant squeeze the 1/4 in drive in between the pan for the two middle bolts. Maybe if a grind a little off the sides of the socket.

Smog Tech · 10-31-2015, 08:16 AM

I have a 30 Town Sedan with float-a-motors. Was able to remove and replace front pan bolts with a 3/8 socket and 6 in. extension.

Marshall V. Daut · 10-31-2015, 08:25 AM

Another aid is to turn the steering wheel all the way to the right so that the tie rod moves out of the way. Then you have a straight, direct pathway for the socket extension to get at those front pan bolts without needing to angle the extension.
I have also had to use a long, heavy flat blade screwdriver or pry bar to put pressure between the front of the engine and the front crossmember, prying them slightly apart from the bottom while the socket is slipped over the bolt heads. This was usually encountered with Float-O-Motor mounts, although crossmembers do get bent or bowed over the years. Then it wouldn't matter which type of motor mounts were in place. 'Never needed to go to 1/4" drive sockets, but if that's what it takes in extreme cases...
Marshall

katy · 10-31-2015, 11:01 AM

Did our '31 recently, used a 3/8" drive flex socket and a 11" extension.

darrylkmc · 10-31-2015, 11:38 AM

I have a chrome plated "T" handle wrench, its marked " Fits Model A Ford Oil Pan Cap Screws". It fits every bolt with no problems, and just the right amount of Torque.

Darryl in Fairbanks, 11 degrees

Larry Jenkins · 10-31-2015, 08:02 PM

If you have access to a metal lathe, turn down the outside of the socket till it fits.

I did that on one of my 1/2" drive set sockets. The steel is a little hard, but Carbide tools work well.

Larry

BILL WILLIAMSON · 10-31-2015, 08:50 PM

If ALL BOLTS & NUTS were EASY, anybody could be a """"MECHANIC""""!
Bill W.

10-30-2015, 10:38 PM	#1
1929 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: New York Posts: 943	Front oil pan bolts is there an easier way to loosen and tighten the two middle front oil pan bolts?, cant fit the sockets, too tight between the timming cover and the front crossmember.

10-30-2015, 10:52 PM	#2
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Front oil pan bolts I found 1/4" drive sockets to be thinner and work for me. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

10-30-2015, 11:14 PM	#3
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,554	Re: Front oil pan bolts Bit the 1/4 inch socket set works well and you are less apt to break a bolts. Use the 1/4 inch on the entire pan.

10-31-2015, 04:06 AM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Front oil pan bolts A 1/4" drive and also having a wobbly extension helps.

10-31-2015, 05:23 AM	#6
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Front oil pan bolts Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) A 3/8 drive wobble socket will also work. Last edited by Patrick L.; 10-31-2015 at 08:23 AM.

10-31-2015, 08:16 AM	#8
Smog Tech Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 145	Re: Front oil pan bolts I have a 30 Town Sedan with float-a-motors. Was able to remove and replace front pan bolts with a 3/8 socket and 6 in. extension.

10-31-2015, 08:25 AM	#9
Marshall V. Daut Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 2,111	Re: Front oil pan bolts Another aid is to turn the steering wheel all the way to the right so that the tie rod moves out of the way. Then you have a straight, direct pathway for the socket extension to get at those front pan bolts without needing to angle the extension. I have also had to use a long, heavy flat blade screwdriver or pry bar to put pressure between the front of the engine and the front crossmember, prying them slightly apart from the bottom while the socket is slipped over the bolt heads. This was usually encountered with Float-O-Motor mounts, although crossmembers do get bent or bowed over the years. Then it wouldn't matter which type of motor mounts were in place. 'Never needed to go to 1/4" drive sockets, but if that's what it takes in extreme cases... Marshall

10-31-2015, 11:01 AM	#10
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,044	Re: Front oil pan bolts Did our '31 recently, used a 3/8" drive flex socket and a 11" extension. __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

10-31-2015, 11:38 AM	#11
darrylkmc Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 767	Re: Front oil pan bolts I have a chrome plated "T" handle wrench, its marked " Fits Model A Ford Oil Pan Cap Screws". It fits every bolt with no problems, and just the right amount of Torque. Darryl in Fairbanks, 11 degrees

10-31-2015, 08:02 PM	#12
Larry Jenkins BANNED Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: East Central Iowa Posts: 1,275	Re: Front oil pan bolts If you have access to a metal lathe, turn down the outside of the socket till it fits. I did that on one of my 1/2" drive set sockets. The steel is a little hard, but Carbide tools work well. Larry __________________ Good enough.. Isn't.

10-31-2015, 08:50 PM	#13
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Front oil pan bolts If ALL BOLTS & NUTS were EASY, anybody could be a """"MECHANIC""""! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"