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hoffernsp · 04-27-2019, 08:42 AM

Ready to put new shoes on the front and noticed that a couple of the rub nubs are worn and one has a burr on the outside edge. Can these still be used?

rich b · 04-27-2019, 11:20 AM

The new shoes can hang up on those wear grooves.

You need to build up the worn spots and grooves with weld and then grind them flat.

hoffernsp · 04-27-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rich b

The new shoes can hang up on those wear grooves.

You need to build up the worn spots and grooves with weld and then grind them flat.

Thanks I have a mig welder that should be able to do that. Also where is a good source for these if the welding does not work out?

JSeery · 04-27-2019, 05:38 PM

Welding it up should work fine.

hoffernsp · 04-27-2019, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery

Welding it up should work fine.

Thanks is there a way I can send you a pic to look at?
Also I went back to my OLD messages and found one that I had sent you re your 39 Ford St'd and that I had one as well. Do you still have yours?

JSeery · 04-27-2019, 06:21 PM

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I have a 38 std, not a 39, sorry if that got confused somewhere along the line. Backing plates are fairly heavy metal and easy to weld on. But you are more than welcome to send a photo if you wish, [email protected]

rich b · 04-27-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hoffernsp

Thanks I have a mig welder that should be able to do that. Also where is a good source for these if the welding does not work out?

I've welded tons of plates since the '60s, never found a case it not to work.

Should be no problem; but if you do not feel comfortable with the process, send them my way and I'll take care of it for you.

cas3 · 04-27-2019, 06:42 PM

thats a good offer rich, can i send a couple cars over to you and jeff? all kidding aside, its easy job, and i dont think you will find any new ones, and old junk yards are getting scarce, and then its a merc besides, better plan on fixing yours

hoffernsp · 04-27-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rich b

I've welded tons of plates since the '60s, never found a case it not to work.

Should be no problem; but if you do not feel comfortable with the process, send them my way and I'll take care of it for you.

I'll send you some pics. I guess my question is how much "pride" do the rub points need from the base of the inner plate?

rich b · 04-27-2019, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hoffernsp

I'll send you some pics. I guess my question is how much "pride" do the rub points need from the base of the inner plate?

The wear is usually toward the outer edge of the pads, never seen any wore bad enough to loose all the original surface.

JSeery · 04-27-2019, 08:14 PM

I will post the photo Keith sent to me, little difficult to see much.

petehoovie · 04-27-2019, 09:32 PM

cas3 · 04-27-2019, 09:34 PM

just like rich said, only worn on the outside. quick fix

51 MERC-CT · 04-27-2019, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoffernsp

I'll send you some pics. I guess my question is how much "pride" do the rub points need from the base of the inner plate?

No "pride", just flush with the inboard original surface.

rotorwrench · 04-28-2019, 08:59 AM

This is one of those things that I use brass on. The brazed area seems to last longer than the original steel.

19Fordy · 04-28-2019, 09:43 AM

Easy fix but if you want an complete front brake assembly,including drums as a spare, I have the ones off my 51 Merc.

51 MERC-CT · 04-28-2019, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rotorwrench

This is one of those things that I use brass on. The brazed area seems to last longer than the original steel.

Fixed mine using Stellite weld rod to virtually eliminate possibility of wear.

rotorwrench · 04-28-2019, 05:40 PM

Who knows how many years these old car have gone without any lubriplate being applied to those pads. Shade tree mechanics seldom ever applied anything to them when performing a brake job.

JSeery · 04-28-2019, 06:25 PM

New photo to post for Keith. Appears to me there is a fairly small area that needs addressed (welded in and dressed down) right where the edge of the brake shoe rides.

hoffernsp · 07-11-2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rich b

I've welded tons of plates since the '60s, never found a case it not to work.

Should be no problem; but if you do not feel comfortable with the process, send them my way and I'll take care of it for you.

Hi Rich where in MN are you located? I'm in Afton.
Finally getting to the brake plates.
Do I cover weld the entire pad or just a bead on the outer edge?
thanks
hoffer

04-27-2019, 08:42 AM	#1
hoffernsp Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: MN Posts: 78	1951 Merc front brake plates Ready to put new shoes on the front and noticed that a couple of the rub nubs are worn and one has a burr on the outside edge. Can these still be used?

04-27-2019, 11:20 AM	#2
rich b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,825	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates The new shoes can hang up on those wear grooves. You need to build up the worn spots and grooves with weld and then grind them flat.

04-27-2019, 05:38 PM	#4
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates Welding it up should work fine.

04-27-2019, 06:21 PM	#6
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have a 38 std, not a 39, sorry if that got confused somewhere along the line. Backing plates are fairly heavy metal and easy to weld on. But you are more than welcome to send a photo if you wish, [email protected]

04-27-2019, 06:42 PM	#8
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,568	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates thats a good offer rich, can i send a couple cars over to you and jeff? all kidding aside, its easy job, and i dont think you will find any new ones, and old junk yards are getting scarce, and then its a merc besides, better plan on fixing yours

04-27-2019, 09:32 PM	#12
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,077	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

04-27-2019, 09:34 PM	#13
cas3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: sw minnesota Posts: 4,568	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates just like rich said, only worn on the outside. quick fix

04-28-2019, 08:59 AM	#15
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,425	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates This is one of those things that I use brass on. The brazed area seems to last longer than the original steel.

04-28-2019, 09:43 AM	#16
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,925	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates Easy fix but if you want an complete front brake assembly,including drums as a spare, I have the ones off my 51 Merc.

04-28-2019, 05:40 PM	#18
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,425	Re: 1951 Merc front brake plates Who knows how many years these old car have gone without any lubriplate being applied to those pads. Shade tree mechanics seldom ever applied anything to them when performing a brake job.