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Old 03-14-2017, 05:08 AM   #1
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Default Standard vs. Deluxe 1930 Tudor Sedans

What parts would differenate a Standard Tudor Sedan from a Deluxe Tudor Sedan in 1930, if there were such a thing?

I can maybe think of two (Cowl lights and a inside dome light)...any others?

What would a possible part number be for the inside dome light?

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Old 03-14-2017, 06:05 AM   #2
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Rear arm rests, sliding front drivers seat. Indented firewall?
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Side mount spare?
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In addition to above, the driver's seat was about 3 inches wider on the 1931 Deluxe Tudor.

Most of the 30+ differences between 1930 ?? and 1931 deluxe tudors were minor and also found on non deluxe tudors as well as on most 1931 body styles.

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Centre folding rear arm rest?
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Old 03-14-2017, 09:14 AM   #7
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There were no "Deluxe" tudor sedans in 1930. The deluxe tudor was not introduced until mid to late 1931.
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Pull straps on the door pillars behind the front seats, at least on the passenger side. Dome light. Upgraded upholstery material, such as mohair. I believe the dash rail and window garnish mouldings were woodgrained, too. The interior appointments were basically the same as a Town Sedan or Deluxe Fordor = the works.
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Rear seat armrests., along with what's mentioned in above posts.
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Pinstriping too???
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Old 03-14-2017, 08:07 PM   #11
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The dash on a standard tudor was not striped. Indented firewall could show up on either. The indented firewall came out before the introduction of the deluxe tudor. The Restoration Guidelines also have black wheels for standard and colored wheels for a deluxe. Not sure if someone mentioned cowl lights. Carpet floors deluxe and a rubber mat for standard.
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All of the above answers refer to the late 1931 Tudor, except the answer of lindy Williams, which Ford introduced as an idea for sluggish sales. There was never a 1930 Deluxe Tudor produced from Ford, but there are sure quite a few which have been modified and on the road with the '31 Deluxe features...
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Lindy Williams...Unless the Ford Motor Company was issuing false data, then you (and Jim) might be wrong about Deluxe Tudors in 1930.

Also, the Indented firewall did not come out on Model A/AA Fords until May of 1931...so that one is out.

According to the Ford Motor Company's MONTHLY Assembly Record Type documents, Ford started to issue the "Deluxe" models starting in March of 1930 with the Deluxe Coupe and the Deluxe Fordor followed by the Deluxe Phaeton in June of 1930. Then in September of 1930, Ford comes out with 4 Deluxe Tudors; in October of 1930 167 Deluxe Tudors; In November of 1930 112 Deluxe Tudors; and in December of 1930 81 Deluxe Tudors for a total of 364 Deluxe Tudors for 1930...In January of 1931 11 Deluxe Tudors. Then the production stopped until June of 1931 with full production for the rest of the year.

All of the 1930 Deluxe Tudors were assembled in Dearborn and not at any other Ford assembly plant.

So with this information...several questions arise...Just what were these 1930 Deluxe Tudors all about? How did they differ from the 1930 Standard Tudor?

With this very small production run of 364 in 1930 (of which also shows up on the YEARLY Asembly Record Type document) plus the 11 in January of 1931 before Ford halted production for a few months...this body style must be few and far between if in fact Ford ever put it out to the customer.

I just can not amigane Ford "scrapping" 364 Deluxe Tudors...but then again...what do I know?

This body style would be mid to late 1930 only and it sure would be nice to find one to document the particulars of this car.

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Old 03-15-2017, 01:13 PM   #14
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According to noted Model A authorities . . . ALL Ford 1931 "DELUXE" Tudor Sedans had the indented firewall with engine compartment fuel shut off valve.

The 31' Tudor with indented firewall that we have is a high serial number - A482xxxx that left the factory in late 1931 or maybe early 1932 as a DELUXE edition car. The original adjustable driver's seat assembly now sitting on a table in the garage is noticeably wider than a regular Tudor sedan front seat. Somebody said that it was much the same unit as used in both Victoria bustle back sedan and A-400 models.

To knowledge, cowl lights and other dealer option goodies could be added as desired. However, there doesn't look to have been a designated or advertised "Deluxe" model Tudor Ford sedans offered for year 1930.



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Deluxe Tudor Sedan

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The Deluxe Tudor Sedan was introduced in June of 1931. Ford hoped to boost sales during the early years of the depression by adding features the Standard Tudors lacked to make it more desirable. Most of these changes were inside the car, where the interior resembled the Victoria. Fewer than 24,000 Deluxe Tudors were produced and all were "late 1931" models with indented firewalls.

Exterior Differences

All Deluxe Tudors (DT's) had cowl lights installed from the factory. Cowl lights were optional on the Standard Tudors. The DT paint choices were the same as the 1931 Town Sedan. All DT's had wheels painted other than black. Most wheel colors matched the pinstripe (which was painted the same as Standard Tudors.) Outside of the cowl lights and paint, all 1930-31 Tudors were identical. Review the paint charts for additional information.


Interior Differences

The interior of the Deluxe and Standard Tudors were markedly different. The Standard Tudors had standard upholstery materials while the Deluxe Tudor used similar materials to the Victoria and Deluxe Fordor sedans.

The window garnish moldings and the dash were wood grained in the DT's while the Standards we painted a solid maroon color.

While both Deluxe and Standard Tudors came with shades on the rear window, the material used in the Deluxe was different; the fabric was silk-like and was one of two patterns; one diamond-like and the other herringbone like.

DT's had are rests and assist straps in the rear passenger compartment, similar to those in the Victoria. The DT also had a round dome light in the center of the roof, just behind the front seats. The on/off switch was in the rim. This same dome light was used in the Deluxe Coupe, Standard Fordor sedans and some other body styles.

The front seats of the DT were similar to the late Victoria and the Convertible Sedan. The driver's seat was on tracks so that it could be adjusted fore and aft. The passenger seat had rear legs that could be adjusted slightly up and down to adjust the "rake" of the seat. Standard Tudors seats would flip forward, but were not adjustable.
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