The Ford Barn

dennisonk1957 · 03-03-2012, 01:56 PM

If you live near Yakima, Washington, It might be nice to know each other and help out with parts, advise, other Model A stuff.

329s · 03-03-2012, 02:03 PM

What do you need?

Pluck
Walla Walla, WA

dennisonk1957 · 03-03-2012, 03:23 PM

I have my father-in-laws A. Before we bought it from my mother -in-law after his passing, to keep it in the family, he changed the brakes to hydraulic but didnt complete it. His friends put it together but it wouldnt stop. I brought it up here to Yakima and took it to R&Q in Selah, great guys. They repositioned the rear plates so that the brake cylinder was positioned low enough to bleed it. They drove it for 5 miles and all was good...for me too...but when I backed it off the trailer...they failed...not a problem I am always cautious. I am not a mechanic but learned how to take the wheels off, hubs, bearings etc. to view the brakes. While the two rear emergency brakes work well...I want to drive it...the left rear had some fluid on it, so I cleaned the brakes and hub with brake cleaner. Inspected them all and took photos...all were dry except the one. I called a local brake shop where I have seen classic cars. It is called Bonnie and Clyde Brakes and Mufflers in Yakima on Nob Hill and 1st Street. I asked the gentleman if he was up or working on it. He said, "Yes".

SO, what do you think....I am not a mechanic...I can repair boats, and people but know just enough to keep an old tractor running with advise and want to be able to understand this Model a....BUT MOST OF ALL WANT TO DRIVE IT TO THE hIGH sCHOOL I teach at and to let my children enjoy it safely.

I thought if someone was close to me, they could teach a teacher...and give advise.

Thank you for reading...hope all was spelled correctly,since I teach English...ha ha. Kris

1931 flamingo · 03-03-2012, 04:36 PM

Replace the shoes if they had brake fluid or axle grease on them, after repairing the source. Hydraulic brakes on an A are NOT rocket science. Do a search here on "hydraulic brakes".
Paul in CT

Farrell In Vancouver · 03-03-2012, 04:53 PM

Advise? or Advice?
My 2 cents.............go back to mechanical brakes and never worry about a leak again.

Tom Wesenberg · 03-03-2012, 09:11 PM

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Farrell beat me to it ..........on both counts. "c" instead of "s"

and the original mechanical brakes are the safest IMHO.

dennisonk1957 · 03-03-2012, 11:19 PM

Now to clear up the advice, advise situation....well advice is a noun and advise is a verb, advice the opinion someone offers you and advise is the information someone gives you and it suggests an action that will happen...so now that the definition is out of the way and my students are laughing in my English class because I made a grammatical error.... unfortunately the parts for the mechanical brakes were long since discarded by my father-in-law...(unfortunate), I will take it to the brake shop and hope that it is easy for him to fix, with an establishment named Bonnie and Clyde, he should know Model A's, and he will know to whom to give the bill to and know where to lay parts when he is finished...all this English aside......good night and thank you for your comments...clause errors are my specialty!

dennisonk1957 · 03-03-2012, 11:22 PM

Thanks Paul in CT

329s · 03-04-2012, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennisonk1957

Now to clear up the advice, advise situation....well advice is a noun and advise is a verb, advice the opinion someone offers you and advise is the information someone gives you and it suggests an action that will happen...so now that the definition is out of the way and my students are laughing in my English class because I made a grammatical error.... unfortunately the parts for the mechanical brakes were long since discarded by my father-in-law...(unfortunate), I will take it to the brake shop and hope that it is easy for him to fix, with an establishment named Bonnie and Clyde, he should know Model A's, and he will know to whom to give the bill to and know where to lay parts when he is finished...all this English aside......good night and thank you for your comments...clause errors are my specialty!

Dennis,

If you ever want to do a change from those juice brakes to mechanical...I can help you out.

Pluck

dennisonk1957 · 03-05-2012, 09:13 AM

Pluck, I might just go there...I am joining the MAFCA in Yakima and will check to see what they think. I appreciate the offer and might take you up on that in the future. I love the way it runs...just want it to be able to stop safely and all the time!
Thanks,
Kris

30ccpickup · 03-05-2012, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennisonk1957

Now to clear up the advice, advise situation....well advice is a noun and advise is a verb, advice the opinion someone offers you and advise is the information someone gives you and it suggests an action that will happen...so now that the definition is out of the way and my students are laughing in my English class because I made a grammatical error.... unfortunately the parts for the mechanical brakes were long since discarded by my father-in-law...(unfortunate), I will take it to the brake shop and hope that it is easy for him to fix, with an establishment named Bonnie and Clyde, he should know Model A's, and he will know to whom to give the bill to and know where to lay parts when he is finished...all this English aside......good night and thank you for your comments...clause errors are my specialty!

I love it when the English teacher needs the help of a shop teacher. I would rather fix the brakes than learn about nouns and verbs. Welcome, to the fordbarn. We will convert you and soon you will be asking us about the best hand cleaner. Post a picture, I would enjoy seeing your A.

Pete · 03-05-2012, 04:00 PM

In the interest of getting the car going soon and not have it become a restoration project, I would say, fix the hydraulics. You already have all the parts. It is just
a matter of getting the parts cleaned up and repaired.
How about the auto shop at your school? Any help there?
You will probably get a lot more pertinent advice on the HAMB. Be sure to introduce yourself there first. I know there are HAMB guys in Yakima.
I'm only 2 hours west of you so stop by some time after you get the car going.

dennisonk1957 · 03-05-2012, 07:35 PM

Pete,
The MAFCA members are giving me a hand...they are already interested...so appreciate all the great help from A owners...I hope to have my 4 yr old boy get interested in this car and learn how to do all the mechanicals...he will need to learn with me...novices...Kris

d.j. moordigian · 03-05-2012, 08:38 PM

Well it was done wrong the first time, it leaked!
This time, second go-a-round, new master cylinder, 4 new wheel cylinders, new
springs, new shoes. If the brake lines are copper, change them to steel. Have the
drums checked for size, also, the shoes fitted to the drums. New brake hoses.
That should keep you busy...good luck...and let use know how you are progressing.

Dudley

03-03-2012, 01:56 PM	#1
dennisonk1957 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yakima, Washington Posts: 205	Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members If you live near Yakima, Washington, It might be nice to know each other and help out with parts, advise, other Model A stuff. __________________ "The Family Ford"

03-03-2012, 02:03 PM	#2
329s Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 239	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members What do you need? Pluck Walla Walla, WA

03-03-2012, 03:23 PM	#3
dennisonk1957 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yakima, Washington Posts: 205	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members I have my father-in-laws A. Before we bought it from my mother -in-law after his passing, to keep it in the family, he changed the brakes to hydraulic but didnt complete it. His friends put it together but it wouldnt stop. I brought it up here to Yakima and took it to R&Q in Selah, great guys. They repositioned the rear plates so that the brake cylinder was positioned low enough to bleed it. They drove it for 5 miles and all was good...for me too...but when I backed it off the trailer...they failed...not a problem I am always cautious. I am not a mechanic but learned how to take the wheels off, hubs, bearings etc. to view the brakes. While the two rear emergency brakes work well...I want to drive it...the left rear had some fluid on it, so I cleaned the brakes and hub with brake cleaner. Inspected them all and took photos...all were dry except the one. I called a local brake shop where I have seen classic cars. It is called Bonnie and Clyde Brakes and Mufflers in Yakima on Nob Hill and 1st Street. I asked the gentleman if he was up or working on it. He said, "Yes". SO, what do you think....I am not a mechanic...I can repair boats, and people but know just enough to keep an old tractor running with advise and want to be able to understand this Model a....BUT MOST OF ALL WANT TO DRIVE IT TO THE hIGH sCHOOL I teach at and to let my children enjoy it safely. I thought if someone was close to me, they could teach a teacher...and give advise. Thank you for reading...hope all was spelled correctly,since I teach English...ha ha. Kris __________________ "The Family Ford"

03-03-2012, 04:36 PM	#4
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Replace the shoes if they had brake fluid or axle grease on them, after repairing the source. Hydraulic brakes on an A are NOT rocket science. Do a search here on "hydraulic brakes". Paul in CT

03-03-2012, 04:53 PM	#5
Farrell In Vancouver Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pitt Meadows BC Posts: 1,003	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Advise? or Advice? My 2 cents.............go back to mechanical brakes and never worry about a leak again.

03-03-2012, 09:11 PM	#6
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Farrell beat me to it ..........on both counts. "c" instead of "s" and the original mechanical brakes are the safest IMHO.

03-03-2012, 11:19 PM	#7
dennisonk1957 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yakima, Washington Posts: 205	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Now to clear up the advice, advise situation....well advice is a noun and advise is a verb, advice the opinion someone offers you and advise is the information someone gives you and it suggests an action that will happen...so now that the definition is out of the way and my students are laughing in my English class because I made a grammatical error.... unfortunately the parts for the mechanical brakes were long since discarded by my father-in-law...(unfortunate), I will take it to the brake shop and hope that it is easy for him to fix, with an establishment named Bonnie and Clyde, he should know Model A's, and he will know to whom to give the bill to and know where to lay parts when he is finished...all this English aside......good night and thank you for your comments...clause errors are my specialty! __________________ "The Family Ford"

03-03-2012, 11:22 PM	#8
dennisonk1957 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yakima, Washington Posts: 205	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Thanks Paul in CT __________________ "The Family Ford"

03-05-2012, 09:13 AM	#10
dennisonk1957 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yakima, Washington Posts: 205	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Pluck, I might just go there...I am joining the MAFCA in Yakima and will check to see what they think. I appreciate the offer and might take you up on that in the future. I love the way it runs...just want it to be able to stop safely and all the time! Thanks, Kris __________________ "The Family Ford"

03-05-2012, 04:00 PM	#12
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,407	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members In the interest of getting the car going soon and not have it become a restoration project, I would say, fix the hydraulics. You already have all the parts. It is just a matter of getting the parts cleaned up and repaired. How about the auto shop at your school? Any help there? You will probably get a lot more pertinent advice on the HAMB. Be sure to introduce yourself there first. I know there are HAMB guys in Yakima. I'm only 2 hours west of you so stop by some time after you get the car going.

03-05-2012, 07:35 PM	#13
dennisonk1957 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Yakima, Washington Posts: 205	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Pete, The MAFCA members are giving me a hand...they are already interested...so appreciate all the great help from A owners...I hope to have my 4 yr old boy get interested in this car and learn how to do all the mechanicals...he will need to learn with me...novices...Kris __________________ "The Family Ford"

03-05-2012, 08:38 PM	#14
d.j. moordigian Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Fresno, Ca. Posts: 3,636	Re: Yakima Washington Ford Barn Members Well it was done wrong the first time, it leaked! This time, second go-a-round, new master cylinder, 4 new wheel cylinders, new springs, new shoes. If the brake lines are copper, change them to steel. Have the drums checked for size, also, the shoes fitted to the drums. New brake hoses. That should keep you busy...good luck...and let use know how you are progressing. Dudley