The Ford Barn

jim1932 · 11-06-2013, 04:49 PM

Must boost compression quite a bit

Those New England mice know the quality of good insulation!

spdway1 · 11-06-2013, 05:13 PM

I think the Pink Panther was in there.

jim1932 · 11-06-2013, 05:15 PM

Definately a girl mouse who liked cars…...

mass A man · 11-06-2013, 07:07 PM

I'm guessing the head was on during the mouse was a tenant. Did they go through the spark plug hole?

Tom Wesenberg · 11-06-2013, 08:52 PM

Forget the pink insulation.............what the heck is that large gouge on the front of #3 cylinder?

Stretch Cab · 11-06-2013, 08:54 PM

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BILL WILLIAMSON · 11-06-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jim1932

Must boost compression quite a bit

Those New England mice know the quality of good insulation!

Dog heer,
NOW! Jimbo, how'd them meeces git in there?, ur did you make thet up by yo' self?? I don't see no meece's POOP! Meece's POOPS looks like this-------- If we wuz closer, we'd SCOOTER over & git um!
Buster T. (And we kuld bring ROCKY, our Cop Dog friend with us!)

SkipShift · 11-06-2013, 09:09 PM

Looks sweet to me.

Joe K · 11-06-2013, 09:25 PM

Heh. While I was building my house, the Gordon-Smith Compressor got parked outside with a tarp thrown over it.

And it sat. And it sat. And it sat for nearly two years until I had a barn to put it in.

And I tried to turn it over for the first time once I had time to pay attention - STUCK. No amount of pulling on the crank would move it.

Dern - what the heck is going on here? Not even rode hard and put away wet?

Putting oil/kerosene in each cylinder in turn. No. 1 spark plug out - ok. No. 2 - ok. No. 3 - ok. No. 4, er, what the heck is this pink stuff under the spark plug.

Insulation?

OFF comes the head. Mice had gotten into No. 4 cylinder apparently through the exhaust valve - which as the engine was left, stood open. Nice little home, even insulated for the winter in there - but the pee had corroded the cylinder most mightily, to the point where it was a challenge simply to remove the piston.

The engine ended up going to my engine rebuilder for a "Bore & Hone" which we elected (based on wear) to do to ALL cylinders - and new pistons/rings. Still had shims in the crank which he tightened up for me as part of the job.

Er. the $700 job.

Expensive little mammals, ain't they?

I would have NEVER imagined that a mouse could get through an open exhaust valve. And up an exhaust pipe which was fully a foot off the ground at the open end.

Take warning...

Joe K.

jim1932 · 11-06-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mass A man

I'm guessing the head was on during the mouse was a tenant. Did they go through the spark plug hole?

What happens when you put a couple of motors in the barn and several of the cylinders don't have plugs. The one motor that did have plugs, they went in through the water pump hole (no pump on it either).

Those aren't gouges, just discoloration. This one might be rebuildable.

The second one???

The liquid is MMO. I didn't store them, I just retrieved them.

Tom Wesenberg · 11-06-2013, 09:51 PM

It's amazing how those @*$)^* rodents can get through such tight spaces. I have a Kohler 4 cylinder 1500 watt generator from the 30's or 40's and you can't identify a single part in the generator. They went in through the cooling holes and lived all through the generator for years. It looks like it was buried in a cesspool for 50 years.

About 10 years ago a Body shop hired me to install the engine in a 28 Special Coupe, and they told me not to do anything but install it and start it. I told them there was no way I'd install it without at least pulling the manifolds to look for mouse damage. Yep, it was full of mouse crap. I pulled the plugs and blew everything out and oiled it. Fortunately it did turn over still.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 11-06-2013, 09:56 PM

At Shaver Lake, a customer's DUAL exhaust on his Jaguar XKE was filled COMPLETELY filled with Maize by mice, in just 3 months of storage!!! NO! it wouldn't even TRY to fire & blow the chicken feed out. He flatbedded it down to civilization & to JOHNNIE'S MUFFELATOR SHOP. Two years later, J.P.'s still findin' MAIZE in cracks & crevices of his PIT!! And when it rains, Maize sprouts out of the cracks, maybe he could sell sprouts to the CHINESE restaurant, down the street?? Buster T. wants to know, "WHY DID GOD MAKE RATS & MEECES? Do they serve a useful purpose anywhere"?---I don't have a good answer for him. (Maybe for SNAKE FOOD? So if God hadn't have made snakes, there'd be no need for him to make MICE?? & then everybody wouldn't be tryin' to make a better MOUSE trap!!---Goin' to bed, my head HURTS! How come NOBODY CALLS????) bill w.
SERIOUSLY, please pray for my neighbor & friend, Andy, he had a huge brain aneurysm yesterday & was flown to the Bay Area, all I know today, is that he's moving his eyes & arms & hands.
Bill W.

jim1932 · 11-06-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

"WHY DID GOD MAKE RATS & MEECES? Do they serve a useful purpose anywhere"?---I don't have a good answer for him. Bill W.

So that men will tolerate cats…..

53OlderThanMe · 11-06-2013, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jim1932

So that men will tolerate cats…..

Good point!

SeaSlugs · 11-06-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jim1932

So that men will tolerate cats…..

well id rather have snakes and other critters that eat mice than mice...never heard of a cat or a snake destroying an engine... ive had to kill several this year with a sledge hammer. Usually just kill em and toss em in the open yard. Bird or cat usually finds it - circle of life haha. Im not really one for killing things that i aint gonna eat (except spiders mosquitos and ticks) so i like to do it the painless way possible, get em trapped in a metal bucket and hover the sledge over them and drop it. If i didnt have a fear of ricochet BB's or pellets taking out a neighbors window or my car windows id be having too much fun but dont get me wrong, most things are fun to pet but better to chew

my original engine would have probably been OK if mice hadent gotten to 2 of the cylinders, 2 valves were completely corroded off from the inside and one piston was very pitted. got the engine to move tho. Bored way to big already unfortinately. Block seems to be good so it is rebuildable but gonna need alot of work (new sleeves pistons etc)

BILL WILLIAMSON · 11-06-2013, 11:32 PM

I was given an old Simca, Aronde, with the head off, forever, 2 pistons down & 2 cyl. walls rusted BAD!! Hit those 2 with a flexible emery cloth type hone, oiled 'er up & she TURNED!
Surfaced the head, oiled up the valve stems, tapped on the valves with a brass hammer, & put'er together, she rolled smoke for a bit, settled down & ran like a top! AMAZING! I used it for my work car for 3 years & sold it, still running good! (I KNOW God knew we were BROKE!!) otherwise, it would have been a PIK-A-PART car! Bill W.

11-06-2013, 05:13 PM	#2
spdway1 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chicopee, MA Posts: 1,402	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor I think the Pink Panther was in there.

11-06-2013, 07:07 PM	#4
mass A man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Danvers, Ma. Posts: 712	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor I'm guessing the head was on during the mouse was a tenant. Did they go through the spark plug hole?

11-06-2013, 08:52 PM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor Forget the pink insulation.............what the heck is that large gouge on the front of #3 cylinder?

11-06-2013, 08:54 PM	#6
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Just right for a "rat" rod........................

11-06-2013, 09:09 PM	#8
SkipShift Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Traverse City, Mi Posts: 185	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor Looks sweet to me.

11-06-2013, 05:15 PM	#3
jim1932 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hancock, MA Posts: 2,781	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor Definately a girl mouse who liked cars…... __________________ Short URL: http://smu.gs/14g7eDW

11-06-2013, 09:25 PM	#9
Joe K Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,188	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor Heh. While I was building my house, the Gordon-Smith Compressor got parked outside with a tarp thrown over it. And it sat. And it sat. And it sat for nearly two years until I had a barn to put it in. And I tried to turn it over for the first time once I had time to pay attention - STUCK. No amount of pulling on the crank would move it. Dern - what the heck is going on here? Not even rode hard and put away wet? Putting oil/kerosene in each cylinder in turn. No. 1 spark plug out - ok. No. 2 - ok. No. 3 - ok. No. 4, er, what the heck is this pink stuff under the spark plug. Insulation? OFF comes the head. Mice had gotten into No. 4 cylinder apparently through the exhaust valve - which as the engine was left, stood open. Nice little home, even insulated for the winter in there - but the pee had corroded the cylinder most mightily, to the point where it was a challenge simply to remove the piston. The engine ended up going to my engine rebuilder for a "Bore & Hone" which we elected (based on wear) to do to ALL cylinders - and new pistons/rings. Still had shims in the crank which he tightened up for me as part of the job. Er. the $700 job. Expensive little mammals, ain't they? I would have NEVER imagined that a mouse could get through an open exhaust valve. And up an exhaust pipe which was fully a foot off the ground at the open end. Take warning... Joe K. __________________ Shudda kept the horse.

11-06-2013, 09:51 PM	#11
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor It's amazing how those @$)^ rodents can get through such tight spaces. I have a Kohler 4 cylinder 1500 watt generator from the 30's or 40's and you can't identify a single part in the generator. They went in through the cooling holes and lived all through the generator for years. It looks like it was buried in a cesspool for 50 years. About 10 years ago a Body shop hired me to install the engine in a 28 Special Coupe, and they told me not to do anything but install it and start it. I told them there was no way I'd install it without at least pulling the manifolds to look for mouse damage. Yep, it was full of mouse crap. I pulled the plugs and blew everything out and oiled it. Fortunately it did turn over still.

11-06-2013, 09:56 PM	#12
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor At Shaver Lake, a customer's DUAL exhaust on his Jaguar XKE was filled COMPLETELY filled with Maize by mice, in just 3 months of storage!!! NO! it wouldn't even TRY to fire & blow the chicken feed out. He flatbedded it down to civilization & to JOHNNIE'S MUFFELATOR SHOP. Two years later, J.P.'s still findin' MAIZE in cracks & crevices of his PIT!! And when it rains, Maize sprouts out of the cracks, maybe he could sell sprouts to the CHINESE restaurant, down the street?? Buster T. wants to know, "WHY DID GOD MAKE RATS & MEECES? Do they serve a useful purpose anywhere"?---I don't have a good answer for him. (Maybe for SNAKE FOOD? So if God hadn't have made snakes, there'd be no need for him to make MICE?? & then everybody wouldn't be tryin' to make a better MOUSE trap!!---Goin' to bed, my head HURTS! How come NOBODY CALLS????) bill w. SERIOUSLY, please pray for my neighbor & friend, Andy, he had a huge brain aneurysm yesterday & was flown to the Bay Area, all I know today, is that he's moving his eyes & arms & hands. Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" Last edited by BILL WILLIAMSON; 11-06-2013 at 10:15 PM.

11-06-2013, 11:32 PM	#16
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Early Ford Mouse Motor I was given an old Simca, Aronde, with the head off, forever, 2 pistons down & 2 cyl. walls rusted BAD!! Hit those 2 with a flexible emery cloth type hone, oiled 'er up & she TURNED! Surfaced the head, oiled up the valve stems, tapped on the valves with a brass hammer, & put'er together, she rolled smoke for a bit, settled down & ran like a top! AMAZING! I used it for my work car for 3 years & sold it, still running good! (I KNOW God knew we were BROKE!!) otherwise, it would have been a PIK-A-PART car! Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"