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mercman from oz · 01-06-2018, 01:49 AM

Is this the correct Fan for the 312 Y Block in 56 Mercurys? It is 18" as you can see from the Tape Measure.

Ford Freak · 01-06-2018, 09:05 AM

I am quite sure that is what was on my 312 in my '57 Fairlane . I replaced it w/a 5 or 6 blade unit . I also installed a neat plastic shroud from a aftermarket supplier .
I know it was not original , but I never had any issues running hot .
No one could tell w/the hood closed ! - F F

Johnnydidd · 01-06-2018, 10:09 AM

that's what is on mine, i have 6 blade to put on it, i also partially blocked off my by pass it has a 5/16 hole in it now, also i have a 5" pulley to put on it i will do that when i replace fan blade

streetdreams · 01-06-2018, 01:07 PM

Correct.

mercman from oz · 01-06-2018, 05:20 PM

Thank you gentleman. When I got my car back in 1988, the dismantled engine was in the trunk. I had a running 272 out of a local Customline that we fitted, however, it is not getting any oil up top, so needed attention. Rather than spending money on the 272, I decided to have the 312 rebuilt. I didn't get any of the Head Bolts, Push Rods or any other nuts, but have managed to get these from a friend who was into Y Blocks. It is coming along well. I thought that this Fan was part of it, so thanks again for identifying it for me. One less item that I have to look for.

scicala · 01-06-2018, 08:39 PM

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I like your Mercury. I used to have a '55 Montclair that had the same roofline. My first car.

Sal

mercman from oz · 01-06-2018, 09:42 PM

The above photos shows a 1955 Mercury Monterey Coupe. Unfortunately, the 1955 Ford Victoria and 1955 Mercury Monterey Coupes both got the high roofline while the 55 Ford Crown Victoria and 55 Mercury Montclair both got the low roofline. Any Mercurys built after 1948 are scarce in Australia. This 55 Monterey has been in Australia since near new. I once had the opportunity to but it many years back, but decided against it because of the high roofline. In 1956, all Ford and Mercury 2 door hardtops got the low roofline. A friend of mine owns this 55 Monterey, and it has been slightly modified. I am glad that my Merc has the low roofline.

KULTULZ · 01-07-2018, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercman from oz

The above photos shows a 1955 Mercury Monterey Coupe.

...the 1955 Ford Victoria and 1955 Mercury Monterey Coupes both got the high roofline while the 55 Ford Crown Victoria and 55 Mercury Montclair both got the low roofline.

In 1956, all Ford and Mercury 2 door hardtops got the low roofline.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT ...

Good Info and THANX...

mercman from oz · 01-07-2018, 06:24 AM

Here is a picture of a 1955 Ford Fairlane Victoria. They all came with the High Roof, like the equivalent 1955 Mercury Monterey.
It wasn't until 1956 that all Ford and Mercury 2 door hardtops got the low roof.

KULTULZ · 01-07-2018, 08:43 AM

thanx again! ...

Ford Freak · 01-07-2018, 11:39 AM

I have been fooling around w/vintage Fords for 46 yrs. now , and I had never realized that there was a difference in the 55/56 roof heights . I knew the rear window was different between the two , but not a different height .Yes , I agree , the 56 roof is better looking ( & in better proportion w/the rest of the car ). Learning a lot on this site !

KULTULZ · 01-07-2018, 02:31 PM

I'm going to tell you what.

A properly trimmed and detailed 56 VICTORIA is about the most beautiful car I have ever seen...

scicala · 01-07-2018, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

I'm going to tell you what.

A properly trimmed and detailed 56 VICTORIA is about the most beautiful car I have ever seen...

I tend to agree with that !

Sal

Alaska Jim · 01-07-2018, 11:32 PM

I like that green 55 Merc. , But, I would have to lose the spotlights, and the port holes.

mercman from oz · 01-08-2018, 06:03 AM

I agree with scicala, 1956 Ford victorias look great. I love the low roof Lines on these cars/ This pair now reside in Australia. the top one even towed a Caravan over 2000 miles to attend this show, then had to do it all aging to get home. This body style was never sold new by Ford in Australia. While they are painted similar colours, they are two different cars.

KULTULZ · 01-08-2018, 06:13 AM

Both beautiful mercman...

Here is my ideal-

CROWN w Wires and skirts...

And for the MERC fans-

scicala · 01-08-2018, 12:06 PM

I also like the '56 Customline Victoria. Same roofline, but with the Customline side trim. A little less flashy.

Sal

KULTULZ · 01-08-2018, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scicala

I also like the '56 Customline Victoria. Same roofline, but with the Customline side trim. A little less flashy.

Sal

Yeah, it won't draw as much attention from revenooers late at night...

I always wondered why the 56 looked better than the 55. The roof line...

mercman from oz · 01-08-2018, 11:30 PM

scicala said that he liked the 1956 Ford Customline Victoria. How about two of them?

mercman from oz · 01-08-2018, 11:43 PM

The 1956 Ford Victoria was a late introduction. When the 56 Fords were first released, this body style was not offered. The date of the first Brochure for the 56 Fords is dated 8/55, and the Customline Victoria and Fairlane Fordor Victoria were absent. This Brochure was revised and dated 1/56 and added these two new releases. The other model to receive attention was the 56 Mainline, when Ford added some brightwork on what was previously a bare car, and painted the insert a second colour. Both Brochures have a similar cover, so a lot of people don't realise that there are two different Brochures. There could be more than two, but as we only got the 1956 Customline Fordor Sedan (plus a mainline Ute) in Australia, I cannot tell. I live too far away from the action.

01-06-2018, 01:49 AM	#1
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? Is this the correct Fan for the 312 Y Block in 56 Mercurys? It is 18" as you can see from the Tape Measure.

01-06-2018, 09:05 AM	#2
Ford Freak Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Pittsford NY. USA Posts: 1,096	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? I am quite sure that is what was on my 312 in my '57 Fairlane . I replaced it w/a 5 or 6 blade unit . I also installed a neat plastic shroud from a aftermarket supplier . I know it was not original , but I never had any issues running hot . No one could tell w/the hood closed ! - F F

01-06-2018, 10:09 AM	#3
Johnnydidd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Overland Park, Ks Posts: 559	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? that's what is on mine, i have 6 blade to put on it, i also partially blocked off my by pass it has a 5/16 hole in it now, also i have a 5" pulley to put on it i will do that when i replace fan blade

01-06-2018, 01:07 PM	#4
streetdreams Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Howell, Michigan, USA, The Peoples Slightly Overspent Demodependancy of Michigan Posts: 638	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? Correct.

01-06-2018, 05:20 PM	#5
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? Thank you gentleman. When I got my car back in 1988, the dismantled engine was in the trunk. I had a running 272 out of a local Customline that we fitted, however, it is not getting any oil up top, so needed attention. Rather than spending money on the 272, I decided to have the 312 rebuilt. I didn't get any of the Head Bolts, Push Rods or any other nuts, but have managed to get these from a friend who was into Y Blocks. It is coming along well. I thought that this Fan was part of it, so thanks again for identifying it for me. One less item that I have to look for.

01-06-2018, 08:39 PM	#6
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I like your Mercury. I used to have a '55 Montclair that had the same roofline. My first car. Sal

01-06-2018, 09:42 PM	#7
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? The above photos shows a 1955 Mercury Monterey Coupe. Unfortunately, the 1955 Ford Victoria and 1955 Mercury Monterey Coupes both got the high roofline while the 55 Ford Crown Victoria and 55 Mercury Montclair both got the low roofline. Any Mercurys built after 1948 are scarce in Australia. This 55 Monterey has been in Australia since near new. I once had the opportunity to but it many years back, but decided against it because of the high roofline. In 1956, all Ford and Mercury 2 door hardtops got the low roofline. A friend of mine owns this 55 Monterey, and it has been slightly modified. I am glad that my Merc has the low roofline.

01-07-2018, 06:24 AM	#9
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? Here is a picture of a 1955 Ford Fairlane Victoria. They all came with the High Roof, like the equivalent 1955 Mercury Monterey. It wasn't until 1956 that all Ford and Mercury 2 door hardtops got the low roof.

01-07-2018, 08:43 AM	#10
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,475	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? thanx again! ... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

01-07-2018, 11:39 AM	#11
Ford Freak Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Pittsford NY. USA Posts: 1,096	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? I have been fooling around w/vintage Fords for 46 yrs. now , and I had never realized that there was a difference in the 55/56 roof heights . I knew the rear window was different between the two , but not a different height .Yes , I agree , the 56 roof is better looking ( & in better proportion w/the rest of the car ). Learning a lot on this site !

01-07-2018, 02:31 PM	#12
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,475	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? I'm going to tell you what. A properly trimmed and detailed 56 VICTORIA is about the most beautiful car I have ever seen... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

01-07-2018, 11:32 PM	#14
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? I like that green 55 Merc. , But, I would have to lose the spotlights, and the port holes.

01-08-2018, 06:03 AM	#15
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? I agree with scicala, 1956 Ford victorias look great. I love the low roof Lines on these cars/ This pair now reside in Australia. the top one even towed a Caravan over 2000 miles to attend this show, then had to do it all aging to get home. This body style was never sold new by Ford in Australia. While they are painted similar colours, they are two different cars.

01-08-2018, 06:13 AM	#16
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,475	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? Both beautiful mercman... Here is my ideal- CROWN w Wires and skirts... And for the MERC fans- __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order) Last edited by KULTULZ; 01-08-2018 at 06:29 AM.

01-08-2018, 12:06 PM	#17
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? I also like the '56 Customline Victoria. Same roofline, but with the Customline side trim. A little less flashy. Sal

01-08-2018, 11:30 PM	#19
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? scicala said that he liked the 1956 Ford Customline Victoria. How about two of them?

01-08-2018, 11:43 PM	#20
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Correct Fan for 312 Y Block in 56 Merc ? The 1956 Ford Victoria was a late introduction. When the 56 Fords were first released, this body style was not offered. The date of the first Brochure for the 56 Fords is dated 8/55, and the Customline Victoria and Fairlane Fordor Victoria were absent. This Brochure was revised and dated 1/56 and added these two new releases. The other model to receive attention was the 56 Mainline, when Ford added some brightwork on what was previously a bare car, and painted the insert a second colour. Both Brochures have a similar cover, so a lot of people don't realise that there are two different Brochures. There could be more than two, but as we only got the 1956 Customline Fordor Sedan (plus a mainline Ute) in Australia, I cannot tell. I live too far away from the action.