Machinist San Diego Area Banjo Sleeve

[philipswanson]

I am looking for an experienced machinist who has machined the Banjo axle housings to install a repair sleeve for the wheel bearing race. We have several good machinists but I am looking for someone that has done this a time or two. I have a '40 woody.

Thanks, Phil Swanson

[ford38v8]

Phil, Check with C&G in Escondido. They will be able to have them done for you by one of their local machinists, or they may send you there directly.

[philipswanson]

C&G sends them out to Columbia Two Speed Parts in Cottonwood, AZ. I want to find somebody local in San Diego area and avoid all the hassle of shipping if possible. Also, no need for a middle man.

Thanks, Phil Swanson

[ford38v8]

That's just a short drive in the country, Phil! Oh, and about middlemen, this type of project is one where a good middleman is worth his commission. I'm not sure where Clyde lives in AZ, but I'd bet that the machinist in Cottonwood is known personally to him.

[philipswanson]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

That's just a short drive in the country, Phil! Oh, and about middlemen, this type of project is one where a good middleman is worth his commission. I'm not sure where Clyde lives in AZ, but I'd bet that the machinist in Cottonwood is known personally to him.

Short drive in the county? 450 miles each way times two round trips. Clyde isn't going to take it over there.

[JM 35 Sedan]

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Some time ago it was reported that some of the sleeves available were not made of the correct material, or possibly not heat treated correctly. You never mentioned which year housing you need repaired, but if you are dealing with a housing that has an attached spring hanger, the machine shop must have equipment that can handle the swing of that attached hanger. As someone else mentioned, finding a good used housing would be easier and less costly in the long run.

[mike in tucson]

Try Hot Rods and Custom Stuff in Escondido.... I think they recently did an axle sleeving. 760-745-1170

[philipswanson]

[QUOTE=ford38v8; this type of project is one where a good middleman is worth his commission. I'm not sure where Clyde lives in AZ, but I'd bet that the machinist in Cottonwood is known personally to him.[/QUOTE]

Why should I pay C&G or Clyde to take or send an axle housing to the same guy I know over there. A commission, yea right.

[philipswanson]

Originally Posted by mike in tucson

Try Hot Rods and Custom Stuff in Escondido.... I think they recently did an axle sleeving. 760-745-1170

Thanks, I'll give them a try. Phil

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

Why should I pay C&G or Clyde to take or send an axle housing to the same guy I know over there. A commission, yea right.

I understand your thinking, but you would need to check pricing. The middle guy is often given a discount which may or many not equal the markup. So, without checking both I wouldn't assume a big savings going direct.

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by philipswanson

Why should I pay C&G or Clyde to take or send an axle housing to the same guy I know over there. A commission, yea right.

Why? Clyde is the C in C&G. Clyde lives in Cottonwood. Clyde's Daughter is the middleman. I think you can do no better. But then, it's your dime, so spend it wherever you like.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Why? Clyde is the C in C&G. Clyde lives in Cottonwood. Clyde's Daughter is the middleman. I think you can do no better. But then, it's your dime, so spend it wherever you like.

Alan, I'm wondering what an estimated cost might be, parts + labor, to have a bearing sleeve repair done on one axle housing?

[ford38v8]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

Alan, I'm wondering what an estimated cost might be, parts + labor, to have a bearing sleeve repair done on one axle housing?

John, I'm afraid I have no idea of the cost. When I needed mine done, I took them to All Ford Parts in Campbell, Ca. They farmed them out, and guaranteed the sleeves and workmanship. In those days, I practically lived at their shop, and in fact, they let me use their press to change out my pinion gear for that rebuild.

If your question is about your '35 housings, you can save the cost by flipping them over left to right, as the wear is always on the underside, and your perches are separate from the housings.

[cas3]

a couple things here, as jm stated many of these bearing sleeves were known to be too soft. the best ones were from john connely, aka columbia two speed. i dont know who he has make them for him, but they are supposed to be the best available. columbia two speed moved to cottonwood az two years ago and does the machining to install. i have a set here, instructions say .001/.002 press fit with minimum .030+ radius. many of my model a friends used to have the housings ground to size as the feeling was they are too hard to cut on the lathe. our friend Mart from across the pond proved that to be wrong an a post awhile back where he cut them on his lathe. model A thru 34 will fit in a more common 14" lathe, while the later housings get longer spring mounts, need a bigger lathe, or like Mart did, you bend the spring hangers out of the way. so, my point is buy the sleeves and go down the street to any machine shop, its not a big deal

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

John, I'm afraid I have no idea of the cost. When I needed mine done, I took them to All Ford Parts in Campbell, Ca. They farmed them out, and guaranteed the sleeves and workmanship. In those days, I practically lived at their shop, and in fact, they let me use their press to change out my pinion gear for that rebuild.

If your question is about your '35 housings, you can save the cost by flipping them over left to right, as the wear is always on the underside, and your perches are separate from the housings.

Alan, my question was mainly for my own curiosity. I have a good collection of 35-36 axle housings saved for my own use and usually do as you say, flip them side to side depending on how they are worn. I need to build two 35-36 rears this spring for my own cars, using 3.78 and 3.54 gears.

[JM 35 Sedan]

Found this post while doing a search. May have some info of interest...

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...housing+repair