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07-15-2021, 05:38 PM | #1 |
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1966 Thunderbird 390 4V
Would this engine be a good replacement for the 352 in my 1958 Sedan Delivery?
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07-15-2021, 06:19 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1966 Thunderbird 390 4V
Direct bolt in and lots of power. Matter of fact it is the same engine just different bore and stroke.
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07-15-2021, 07:05 PM | #3 |
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It would be a great replacement and performance increase.
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Re: 1966 Thunderbird 390 4V
Bill, is the 390 a low mile engine ?, Or better yet, is it a rebuilt 390 engine ?
Recently Rebuilt would be nice, so it would have good seals, etc, etc. .
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07-16-2021, 09:54 AM | #7 |
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Re: 1966 Thunderbird 390 4V
Newer block will have the advantage of alternator mount and shorter water pump and pulley setup.
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07-16-2021, 12:24 PM | #8 |
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Re: 1966 Thunderbird 390 4V
I'm not sure when the change came but Ford changed the casting a bit to allow a slightly different location for the motor mounts. They can still be used with the older mounts but may need to drill a hole & tap it for one or more bolts. It may have been in the late 60s when they did that but I can't remember. That is the bolt location and delete of the early bolt threaded bore location on certain bolt holes. Earlier blocks like the 1964 may have all the bolt holes but I don't remember. It's been many years since I overhauled the motor in a 1964 Thunderbird I used to have.
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07-16-2021, 03:35 PM | #9 |
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The change came between the 64 and 65 model years. You can put a late FE in a early chassis but to put an early FE into a 65/ chassis, the mounts will need modifications.
10-4 on the ALT MTG change.
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Yes.
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Thanks
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07-16-2021, 07:30 PM | #13 |
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Very cool looking sedan delivery from what I can see. I don't believe I've seen one of '58 vintage before.
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07-17-2021, 08:09 PM | #14 |
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It looks worse than it really is.
The front floor body mounts must have rusted away. The previous owner had the idea you could replace the body mounts by cutting the floor away first. Needs the rocker panels,rear lower fender panels and top of the fenders replaced. I might buy the fender top repair panels but the rest I can fabricate. I have collected most everything that is missing already. Still have to locate the Meteor script that goes on the header panel and the Sedan Delivery script for the quarter panels. Wish I had a source that could tell me how many were produced in '58. I have read sales ads that say a total of 331 to a total of under 770 were produced. |
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This is a CAN METEOR?
Like to see a shot of the grille and front end.
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http://emsautomotive.com/index.php?r...h=18_68&page=1 has most of your sheet metal needs
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The Meteor script trim will likely be easier to find than the Sedan Delivery model trim. Not much of the Canadian stuff makes it too far south. There is bound to be a Mercury fanatice up north that has stuff like that in their stash. Finding them and getting them to part with it is another matter.
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That would explain why I haven't seen many of them. I, as well, would like to see pics of this car, if you ever get a chance. I have a "54 Ranch Wagon and I'm very interested in stuff like this. Earlier this year, I came close to checking out a late 60's Meteor LeMoyne (not a wagon or delivery) in Arizona when I was taking my son to school. I wasn't able stop and see it because I ran into car problems. It had to have been one of the few Canadian made Meteors to have spent most of its 50+ year life in a very dry part of Arizona! |
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I have the complete bumper and grille assembly
I did find on ebay the Meteor header panel script but did not have the money to buy it once I think if I have to I could take a pattern off the car of the script. Then have the script water cut out of aluminum. I can buff the aluminum at work easily The picture of the blue header is one from pinterest.ca |
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The grille is very interesting to me anyways.
If the center grille ornament is removed, the look is similar to a 58 BIRD. The HDL DOORS, were they black from assembly or bright finish? As for the name plates, maybe have them air-brushed on? THANX! for the photos ...
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I haven't seen too many 58s that didn't have rust on the fender tops just behind the headlamps. My uncle had a 58 Ranchero back in the day that was pretty cherry but it had some little pin holes up there.
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just wondering on the tag where does it say the car was built
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07-19-2021, 07:21 PM | #23 |
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You are correct in comparing the T-Bird grille to this one. I thought so too.
The headlight doors on mine are chrome but pictures show some were painted. Thought about air brushed name plates. I will decide on that closer to when it is finished. |
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It was likely built at the Oakville plant. Ford of Canada didn't have all that many plants in that time frame.
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the reason i asked was i have a book that says no wagons were built by ford canada between 58 and 62.this isnt a wagon but close.just wondering if the book was right.
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The only way to determine the ASSEMBLY PLANT is to de-code the PATENT PLATE and you need a FORD of CANADA WSM and/or MPC to do that.
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And for your viewing pleasure, a little eye candy -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/uncleg...n/photostream/
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Had a 56 Meteor CV back in the day in the same color combination like the Vicky shown there. Had to sell it when I got drafted in '69. It's at the top of the list of "cars I wish I still had".
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