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dmsfrr · 08-04-2022, 12:40 PM

Does anyone have a diagram of a '57 T-Bird frame with measurements showing the locations of the body mount bolts?
Thanks.

KULTULZ · 08-05-2022, 01:05 PM

I was hoping someone had this info ...

KULTULZ · 08-05-2022, 01:50 PM

The info appears to be within here -

https://www.ctci.org/restoration-manual-index/

dmsfrr · 08-05-2022, 06:48 PM

Not on any of the pages listed for the 'body' or 'frame' that I found.
The closest thing I saw was a photo showing the length of the individual body to frame bolts.

KULTULZ · 08-05-2022, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmsfrr

Not on any of the pages listed for the 'body' or 'frame' that I found.

The closest thing I saw was a photo showing the length of the individual body to frame bolts.

... hmmpf...

I have never seen the manual. It seems that someone that has gone through this would have shared the information.

paul2748 · 08-05-2022, 08:36 PM

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I also looked - nothing to answer the question

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

The info appears to be within here -

https://www.ctci.org/restoration-manual-index/

paul2748 · 08-05-2022, 08:41 PM

Found this on ebay. Too small to see if it fits your questions

Number 334390373564

dmsfrr · 08-05-2022, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul2748

Found this on ebay. Too small to see if it fits your questions
Number 334390373564

Thanks, it has frame dimensions but not measurements for the locations of the body mounts. A friend in our local club has 2 complete 57's and is doing a body / frame swap. He's building a rack to store the leftover body on for a while. Preferably before he takes either car apart so he has a good place to set it down.
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rotorwrench · 08-06-2022, 09:59 AM

What about the 1957 Thunderbird Body, Trim & Sealant Assembly manual put out by Ford? It's only 53 pages so there may be nothing on the actual body to frame installation.

This link is to a body cushion & mounting kit. It has an illustrated instruction sheet.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175349835538
It doesn't have measurements but it shows locations.

This link has measurements.
https://www.classictbird.com/pdf/Thu...htening-10.pdf

KULTULZ · 08-06-2022, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

What about the 1957 Thunderbird Body, Trim & Sealant Assembly manual put out by Ford? It's only 53 pages so there may be nothing on the actual body to frame installation.

EXCELLENT QUESTION!

Quote:

This link is to a body cushion & mounting kit. It has an illustrated instruction sheet.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175349835538

It doesn't have measurements but it shows locations.

That one is PASS CAR.

Quote:

This link has measurements.

https://www.classictbird.com/pdf/Thu...htening-10.pdf

!!! BINGO !!!

Give the man a pink cupie doll ...

Patrick brophy · 08-06-2022, 11:30 AM

See attached

KULTULZ · 08-06-2022, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick brophy

See attached

I'll be dam... (well, I guess I am) ...

So the info was in the earlier CHASSIS - BODY CATALOGING.

You know Patrick, for a YANKEE, you are a pretty good 'ol boy ...

Patrick brophy · 08-06-2022, 01:08 PM

I knew I had seen this before, it just took me a while to locate it. A few of these CD's are 800-900 pages.

KULTULZ · 08-06-2022, 01:12 PM

Well ...

Now that I opened them and blew them up, they are FORD frame ILL's, same as the later MPC ILL's.

There had to be some type of SPECIALTY MANUAL for the BIRD.

THANX! ANYWAY

What year is the catalog you have (print date)?

Patrick brophy · 08-06-2022, 04:38 PM

Well now don't I feel silly.
I just saw the header Ford and Thunderbird chassis parts, and the 1957 X type looked at a quick glance like my 57 Bird. Oops.

I am using a CD by "Detroit Iron Information Systems" It is supposed to cover all 1957 Ford/T-Bird.
It is a factory OEM Shop Manual, licensed by ford Motor Company.

KULTULZ · 08-06-2022, 04:43 PM

You're OK brother.

56sedandelivery · 08-07-2022, 08:20 AM

Those are the same ones in my 55-57 Chassis parts and accessories catalog

KULTULZ · 08-07-2022, 09:18 AM

That's what I thought when I viewed the scan. It is early cataloging format. The CD set he bought must be different from most as they usually use the 1949/59 MPC FINAL ISSUE (1964) to copy.

I have a SEP 59 ISSUE that must have had most of that deleted.

dmsfrr · 08-07-2022, 01:06 PM

Thanks guys.

They finished modifying the rack last night. Started with a shipping rack for a replacement/reproduction Bronco body and shifted the attaching points around.

KULTULZ · 08-08-2022, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmsfrr

They finished modifying the rack last night. Started with a shipping rack for a replacement/reproduction Bronco body and shifted the attaching points around.

Did you get a photo?

He put the BIRD body on a shipping pallet for storage?

The guy is serious isn't he?

08-04-2022, 12:40 PM	#1
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	'57 T-Bird frame question Does anyone have a diagram of a '57 T-Bird frame with measurements showing the locations of the body mount bolts? Thanks.

08-05-2022, 01:05 PM	#2
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,474	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question I was hoping someone had this info ... __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

08-05-2022, 01:50 PM	#3
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,474	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question The info appears to be within here - https://www.ctci.org/restoration-manual-index/ __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

08-05-2022, 06:48 PM	#4
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question Not on any of the pages listed for the 'body' or 'frame' that I found. The closest thing I saw was a photo showing the length of the individual body to frame bolts.

08-05-2022, 08:41 PM	#7
paul2748 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 3,982	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question Found this on ebay. Too small to see if it fits your questions Number 334390373564 __________________ 48 Ford Conv 56 Tbird 54 Ford Victoria

08-06-2022, 09:59 AM	#9
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,426	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question What about the 1957 Thunderbird Body, Trim & Sealant Assembly manual put out by Ford? It's only 53 pages so there may be nothing on the actual body to frame installation. This link is to a body cushion & mounting kit. It has an illustrated instruction sheet. https://www.ebay.com/itm/175349835538 It doesn't have measurements but it shows locations. This link has measurements. https://www.classictbird.com/pdf/Thu...htening-10.pdf

08-06-2022, 01:08 PM	#13
Patrick brophy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Alabama Posts: 169	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question I knew I had seen this before, it just took me a while to locate it. A few of these CD's are 800-900 pages.

08-06-2022, 01:12 PM	#14
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,474	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question Well ... Now that I opened them and blew them up, they are FORD frame ILL's, same as the later MPC ILL's. There had to be some type of SPECIALTY MANUAL for the BIRD. THANX! ANYWAY What year is the catalog you have (print date)? __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

08-06-2022, 04:38 PM	#15
Patrick brophy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Alabama Posts: 169	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question Well now don't I feel silly. I just saw the header Ford and Thunderbird chassis parts, and the 1957 X type looked at a quick glance like my 57 Bird. Oops. I am using a CD by "Detroit Iron Information Systems" It is supposed to cover all 1957 Ford/T-Bird. It is a factory OEM Shop Manual, licensed by ford Motor Company.

08-06-2022, 04:43 PM	#16
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,474	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question You're OK brother. __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

08-07-2022, 08:20 AM	#17
56sedandelivery Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Arkansas Posts: 525	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question Those are the same ones in my 55-57 Chassis parts and accessories catalog

08-07-2022, 09:18 AM	#18
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,474	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question That's what I thought when I viewed the scan. It is early cataloging format. The CD set he bought must be different from most as they usually use the 1949/59 MPC FINAL ISSUE (1964) to copy. I have a SEP 59 ISSUE that must have had most of that deleted. __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

08-07-2022, 01:06 PM	#19
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: '57 T-Bird frame question Thanks guys. They finished modifying the rack last night. Started with a shipping rack for a replacement/reproduction Bronco body and shifted the attaching points around.