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msmaron · 05-09-2013, 05:41 PM

Any help is appreciated. Have a B Cover on my Model A Engine and just in stalled a newly restored B Distributor.

Set Point gap at .20, found BTDC with timing pin in B Hole. set cam timing with a light to get it perfect. Have a original pop out switch modified with the quick connect wire to a armored cable to B distributor, new points, new condenser. New distributor body and cap, extended copper straps from the spark plug to the distrib for good solid connection.

Getting great spark at points, getting spark from coil wire to head nut making the gap, fuel fine, elec fine and full 6 volts, all accessories working fine also.
CANNOT get it to start at all. Turns over fine but wont catch at all. Fuel flow is fine just will NOT Catch and start..

ANY Help would be appreciated.

Hicktick · 05-09-2013, 05:46 PM

Check and see if you have spark at the plugs . if you don't I would look at the rotor button .

msmaron · 05-09-2013, 05:52 PM

Well i have spark at the points. the gap, the coil. I will go check the rotor right now...
be back@!

msmaron · 05-09-2013, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hicktick

Check and see if you have spark at the plugs . if you don't I would look at the rotor button .

yes i do have spark at the plug when i hit the starter with the copper wire moved from the dist.ever so slightly

AL in NY · 05-09-2013, 06:51 PM

Are the "A" and "B" cam gears the same? If they are, I would find approxiate TDC by looking in the spark plug hole and see how closely that aligns with the timing pin. I know the "B" timing is set advanced by the timing pin. I would try to set the timing at Zero advance and see if it will start.

Ron W · 05-09-2013, 07:06 PM

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Are you really sure no. 1 piston was on top of compression stroke when you set timeing?
Ron W

ursus · 05-09-2013, 08:28 PM

A snoted by Purdy, make sure you have a B timing cover. The easiest way to check: the drilling for the B is closer to the timing cover bolt hole above it and, with the A cover, the drilling is closer to the bolt hole below it.

msmaron · 05-09-2013, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron W

Are you really sure no. 1 piston was on top of compression stroke when you set timeing?
Ron W

Ron yes i was at the compression stroke as it blew my thumb off plug number 1 when pin was dropping in at BTDC

Quote:

Originally Posted by ursus

A snoted by Purdy, make sure you have a B timing cover. The easiest way to check: the drilling for the B is closer to the timing cover bolt hole above it and, with the A cover, the drilling is closer to the bolt hole below it.

YES i do have the correct one from Berts

05-09-2013, 05:41 PM	#1
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Please help with Timing on Model A w/B Distrib....problems!! Any help is appreciated. Have a B Cover on my Model A Engine and just in stalled a newly restored B Distributor. Set Point gap at .20, found BTDC with timing pin in B Hole. set cam timing with a light to get it perfect. Have a original pop out switch modified with the quick connect wire to a armored cable to B distributor, new points, new condenser. New distributor body and cap, extended copper straps from the spark plug to the distrib for good solid connection. Getting great spark at points, getting spark from coil wire to head nut making the gap, fuel fine, elec fine and full 6 volts, all accessories working fine also. CANNOT get it to start at all. Turns over fine but wont catch at all. Fuel flow is fine just will NOT Catch and start.. ANY Help would be appreciated. __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

05-09-2013, 05:46 PM	#2
Hicktick Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hickory Tavern , SC Posts: 422	Re: Please help with Timing on Model A w/B Distrib....problems!! Check and see if you have spark at the plugs . if you don't I would look at the rotor button .

05-09-2013, 05:52 PM	#3
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Please help with Timing on Model A w/B Distrib....problems!! Well i have spark at the points. the gap, the coil. I will go check the rotor right now... be back@! __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

05-09-2013, 06:51 PM	#5
AL in NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Upstate New York Posts: 1,160	Re: Please help with Timing on Model A w/B Distrib....problems!! Are the "A" and "B" cam gears the same? If they are, I would find approxiate TDC by looking in the spark plug hole and see how closely that aligns with the timing pin. I know the "B" timing is set advanced by the timing pin. I would try to set the timing at Zero advance and see if it will start. __________________ AL in NY

05-09-2013, 07:06 PM	#6
Ron W Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Central Me. Posts: 260	Re: Please help with Timing on Model A w/B Distrib....problems!! Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Are you really sure no. 1 piston was on top of compression stroke when you set timeing? Ron W

05-09-2013, 08:28 PM	#7
ursus Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,375	Re: Please help with Timing on Model A w/B Distrib....problems!! A snoted by Purdy, make sure you have a B timing cover. The easiest way to check: the drilling for the B is closer to the timing cover bolt hole above it and, with the A cover, the drilling is closer to the bolt hole below it.