Go Back   The Ford Barn > General Discussion > Model A (1928-31)

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-20-2013, 04:39 PM   #21
Chuck Sea/Tac
Senior Member
 
Chuck Sea/Tac's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma
Posts: 2,354
Talking Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock Hornbuckle View Post
Post #6 by Steve S is spot-on. There are many old wives tales still circulating amoung us. Such as "heat rises". First year engineering students would fall for it every time.
OK I'll bite! What do you mean heat doesn't rise? I know there is no such thing as cold. Only the absence of heat,down to -460* or whatever absolute zero is. Is this the same as ford 3 is saying re vapor LOCK vs vapor caused liquid fuel STARVATION? Chuck
Chuck Sea/Tac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 04:58 PM   #22
BILL WILLIAMSON
Senior Member
 
BILL WILLIAMSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Dog here, so, Brother Chuck, is intelligence just the abscency of idiocy? Or visa-versa Or versa- visa Buster T.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"
BILL WILLIAMSON is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Old 05-20-2013, 05:34 PM   #23
machine girl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 422
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Were going to use the plastic clothes pins. they come in so many different colors!
machine girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 06:28 PM   #24
Joe K
Senior Member
 
Joe K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cow Hampshire
Posts: 4,188
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON View Post
Chief put a clothespin on a stray cat's tail, he NEVER came back! Bill W.
So where is Chief living now?

Joe K
__________________
Shudda kept the horse.
Joe K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 06:50 PM   #25
BILL WILLIAMSON
Senior Member
 
BILL WILLIAMSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe K View Post
So where is Chief living now?

Joe K
Chief passed 11 years ago & is probably up there, laughin' at US as we over- complicate such a SIMPLE car! Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"
BILL WILLIAMSON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 10:42 PM   #26
Tom Wesenberg
Senior Member
 
Tom Wesenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,582
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith True View Post
I saw that lots when I was a kid,I would ask what they were on there for and somebody would answer,vapor lock.Years later I found I was getting half of the story.The clothespins were on there to keep the tin foil wrapped around the line from unraveling.The foil would fall apart anyway,but the pins would stay.I think a lot of that kind of stuff got instilled into us as little kids and we would take it as gospel.Kind of like the old guy here that says Ford used the old packing crates to make the wood frames for the bodies,he was told that in 1940 and you will never convince him otherwise.
Finally, the rest of the story. Now the clothespins make sense.
Tom Wesenberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2013, 11:09 PM   #27
Rock Hornbuckle
Senior Member
 
Rock Hornbuckle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Noxon Montana
Posts: 532
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Sea/Tac View Post
OK I'll bite! What do you mean heat doesn't rise? I know there is no such thing as cold. Only the absence of heat,down to -460* or whatever absolute zero is. Is this the same as ford 3 is saying re vapor LOCK vs vapor caused liquid fuel STARVATION? Chuck
Heat radiates equally in all directions, as the sun does. The reason we think heat rises is beacuse hot air 'floats' on cold air, because hot air is thinner than cold air. That's why a hot air ballon floats just like an ice cubes (less dense because of expansion) floats on water. It is because of density differences not temperature difference. Otherwise if heat were to rise, then why does colder ice rise?
Thermodynamics 101
__________________
'31 Fordor Deluxe 2W Briggs 170-B / blackwalls
'41 Fordor Deluxe / 2-duece flattie
'66 1/2 Dodge Charger
'14 100th Anniversary Challenger Limited Edition.

Semper Fidelis
Rock Hornbuckle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 01:52 AM   #28
Mike V. Florida
Senior Member
 
Mike V. Florida's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Florida
Posts: 14,054
Send a message via AIM to Mike V. Florida
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Thank God I've never seen this before reading about it as I would have insulted the owner by laughing so hard as to cry.
__________________
What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II
Mike V. Florida is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 06:34 PM   #29
spdway1
Senior Member
 
spdway1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chicopee, MA
Posts: 1,400
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by machine girl View Post
Were going to use the plastic clothes pins. they come in so many different colors!
I recommend you stay with the WOOD type, LMAO!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg clothes pin people 1.jpg (49.8 KB, 15 views)
spdway1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 07:15 PM   #30
BILL WILLIAMSON
Senior Member
 
BILL WILLIAMSON's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FRESNO, CA
Posts: 12,560
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Do "they" still make clothespins?? Plugged in my iron after years of non-use, it stunk SO bad, I cooled it off & "tossed" it! Do "they" iron stuff nowadays?? I hope NOT! Bill W.
__________________
"THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"
BILL WILLIAMSON is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2013, 07:42 PM   #31
Tom Wesenberg
Senior Member
 
Tom Wesenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,582
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON View Post
Do "they" still make clothespins?? Plugged in my iron after years of non-use, it stunk SO bad, I cooled it off & "tossed" it! Do "they" iron stuff nowadays?? I hope NOT! Bill W.
I haven't ironed my cloths since high school days, but I still hang them on the line outside. Nothing like a solar drier. It saves on the electric bill so I can buy more Model A parts.
Tom Wesenberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 07:15 AM   #32
luckyal
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: wherever I am today, whatzit matter
Posts: 431
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Some of our old geezers were not rocket scientists bu they got the job done. Another good example !
Thanks, Al
luckyal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 10:34 AM   #33
rons49
Senior Member
 
rons49's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: tucson
Posts: 136
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

No fuel pump in As, therefore no vapor lock. The problem is IMO, the fuel line can get hot, and Mylar will reflect the heat away. However, the issue is the float bowl boils the fuel & the A will fuel starve. Heat can be transferred from the exhaust pipe to the air maze to the carb. In addition side valvers have the fuel entering the system( carb) right at the hottest spot... the exhaust manifold. Without engine pans heat resonates from the road surface and adds to the issue. With 0 fuel pump pressure gas will boil sooner. #2, these "vapor lock" issues always pop up in the spring. This, of course, is when the weather gets warm and there is all that WINTER gas still in the tank. Recommend, that the winter fuel be drained and new fresh summer fuel be added. Put the old stuff in your newer vehicle that pushes @25 psi into the injectors. Radiators work the same way ... boiling temp rises with pressure @ 3 degrees per lb of psi. Ron
rons49 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 11:08 AM   #34
Tom Wesenberg
Senior Member
 
Tom Wesenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Mpls, MN
Posts: 27,582
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

I think we should use clothes pins and magnets taped to the fuel line.

That would really confuse onlookers.
Tom Wesenberg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:30 PM   #35
Terry, NJ
Senior Member
 
Terry, NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks Co, Pa
Posts: 3,740
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by machine girl View Post
Were going to use the plastic clothes pins. they come in so many different colors!
Try aluminum if you can still find them, but they only come in one color, grey.
Terry
Terry, NJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 02:32 PM   #36
Terry, NJ
Senior Member
 
Terry, NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks Co, Pa
Posts: 3,740
Talking Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Would that be cow magnets? ROFLMAO!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
I think we should use clothes pins and magnets taped to the fuel line.

That would really confuse onlookers.
Terry, NJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 03:15 PM   #37
Patrick L.
Senior Member
 
Patrick L.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Largo Florida
Posts: 7,225
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON
Do "they" still make clothespins?? Plugged in my iron after years of non-use, it stunk SO bad, I cooled it off & "tossed" it! Do "they" iron stuff nowadays?? I hope NOT! Bill W.
end quote

Yep, they sure do and we still use them as intended. There are some local laws around here outlawing clothes lines, afterall, I live in NY. I tend to ignore laws that don't suit me. We still irons too, I don't like wrinkles !
Patrick L. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 04:20 PM   #38
Terry, NJ
Senior Member
 
Terry, NJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bucks Co, Pa
Posts: 3,740
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick L. View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON
Do "they" still make clothespins?? Plugged in my iron after years of non-use, it stunk SO bad, I cooled it off & "tossed" it! Do "they" iron stuff nowadays?? I hope NOT! Bill W.
end quote

Yep, they sure do and we still use them as intended. There are some local laws around here outlawing clothes lines, afterall, I live in NY. I tend to ignore laws that don't suit me. We still irons too, I don't like wrinkles !
So Jersey H.O.A.s outlaw them too! Can you believe it? They want you to use those expensive squiggly light bulbs, but you're not supposed to use a solar drier! Any more than this and I'm getting political, so I'll stop here!
Terry
Terry, NJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 04:41 PM   #39
Richard Wilson
Senior Member
 
Richard Wilson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: NC
Posts: 908
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg View Post
I think we should use clothes pins and magnets taped to the fuel line.

That would really confuse onlookers.
But not as much as my 6V alternator does.
Richard Wilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2013, 10:13 PM   #40
marc hildebrant
Senior Member
 
marc hildebrant's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 1,128
Default Re: Clothes Pins On Fuel Line

My Model A developed vapor lock while I lived in Colorado. When the air temp got to be 100 F in the shad, it would occur.


I just do not understand other people on this forum claim that it can't happen ? They were not in my car....I was !!

Marc
marc hildebrant is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:39 PM.