|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
02-23-2012, 10:14 PM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
My big old hound dog nose is usually pretty good at sniffing this stuff out but it seems plugged up with something right now and I haven't found one of these. Bought one that was advertised as 6 volt that turned out to be 12 volt. So, where do I get me one? The standard 535 thermal flasher flashes too fast for me.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-24-2012, 12:31 AM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
How about this Honda 6 volt two prong (no ground so polarity wouldn't matter?) electronic? Any reason it wouldn't work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120859565413
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
02-24-2012, 07:29 AM | #3 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,579
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
I believe these folks carry them to use on Amish horse-drawn vehicles:
Witmer Coach Shop 1070 W Main St New Holland, PA 17557 (717) 656-3411 |
02-24-2012, 08:14 AM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sf bay area
Posts: 1,464
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
napa auto parts just say ya own a 47 pickup
|
02-24-2012, 03:04 PM | #5 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Meredith, N.H.
Posts: 766
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Old Henry, go to NAPA and ask for 6V flasher # 535 Its a 6V three prong and works great for me in the 40
|
02-24-2012, 03:30 PM | #6 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Quote:
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
|
02-24-2012, 04:25 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 135
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
I think you hit the nail on the head! If your only flashing one bulb the 535 ( which I use on my '48 ) will flash very rapidly. Older Guys like me used it as a warning back when, that one bulb was burned out still works today.
Rich O. |
02-24-2012, 04:47 PM | #8 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
I actually added a 1 ohm resistor (same load as a bulb) and buzzer in each circuit that should have slowed the blinking down but didn't.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-24-2012, 05:00 PM | #9 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Just received a PM asking why I was only blinking one bulb. Here's why.
These are my turn signals: One bulb in each fixture that sticks in the back window with the little suction cups and are switched by the little switch that clamps under the dash board. Was not made to blink originally, just turn on to indicate turn indication. That's why I'm blinking only one bulb. Not conventional system that blinks any original lights.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-24-2012, 05:21 PM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 875
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Can't you wire in a socket and bulb in the wiring harness on each side in the trunk or whatever,just so you have 2 bulbs flashing. You dont need to see them, you just need the resistance. Marv
|
02-24-2012, 05:26 PM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Adding the 1 ohm resistor in the circuit was the same thing. If you check the ohms of the bulbs in your turn signal lights, that's it. Didn't help.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-24-2012, 05:34 PM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,173
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Old Henry>>>I actually added a 1 ohm resistor (same load as a bulb)>>>
Bulb filament resistance is a lot higher when lit than measured cold. So instead of a 1 ohm resistor, add another bulb in parallel to the circuit and see if the flasher slows down. Then do something like Marv suggested earlier. Jack E/NJ Last edited by Jack E/NJ; 02-24-2012 at 05:57 PM. |
02-24-2012, 06:08 PM | #13 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Quote:
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
|
02-24-2012, 06:24 PM | #14 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Solihull, England.
Posts: 8,750
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
The bulb in the rear unit needs to be 21Watt. The "dummy" bulb also needs to be 21Watt. Flasher units are designed to run with a load of 2 x 21watts, and sometines a 4 or 5Watt side marker bulb. If the bulb in the rear unit is less than 21Watt and you add a 21Watt bulb, you might still be flashing fast.
Not sure if Watts is the system you use in the USA, but it's what we use over here. It's what the brake filament is in a dual filament bulb, the rear light is 5W. Mart. |
02-24-2012, 06:28 PM | #15 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Quote:
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
|
02-24-2012, 06:55 PM | #16 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,579
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
|
02-24-2012, 06:57 PM | #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Just found this conversion table someone made up for watts and candle power although others say there is no direct conversion because different bulbs give different levels of light using the same watts. Anyway, here it is:
CP Watts Milliwatts Milliamps 1.5 = .028 = 28 = 2.33 3.0 = .056 = 56 = 4.66 6.0 = .113 = 113 = 9.42 If that chart is accurate, my 19 cp halogen bulbs only use .35 watts a piece. I'd have to hook up 60 of them to get 21 watts! And 120 to equal two 21 watt bulbs! Looks like I better stick with the electronic flasher that is not dependent on load to work.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-24-2012, 07:08 PM | #18 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,173
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
4dFord/SC>>>Just paint it black. >>>
Or just call it another turn signal indicator light....a bright one. Henry, if your 1.5cp bulb was about 1 ohm cold, it was probably about 2 ohms lit. Which means it is an 18 watt bulb, about the same as Mart suggested was needed. Jack E/NJ |
02-24-2012, 07:19 PM | #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Meredith, N.H.
Posts: 766
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Well, after looking at that setup in the pictures, I'd have to say it's a pretty neat apparatus,assembly,mechanism,devise for flashing people with lights !
|
02-24-2012, 07:21 PM | #20 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Here's what I'm dealing with:
The left bulb came from Mac's in a package marked 21 cp, no watts. The middle one is the 1.5 cp that came with the fixtures. The right on is the aircraft halogen bulb that's rated at 19 cp. So, maybe the itty bitty halogen actually draws the same as the big bulb. It certainly is as bright. Maybe I will just try wiring another of the big bulb on the left into the circuit and see what happens.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-24-2012, 07:34 PM | #21 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,173
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
The middle one looks like a sub-watt indicator lamp. I think you're right about the halogen drawing as much as or even more than the big bulb. Also, I seem to recall that the old thermal flashers flashed faster, not slower, when trailer lights were added to the circuit.
Jack E/NJ |
02-24-2012, 08:08 PM | #22 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Everett, WA
Posts: 504
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Quote:
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|
02-24-2012, 08:15 PM | #23 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,173
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Yeah, Bill, good idea. I wonder if maybe the bulb somehow drew more current than the flasher can was designed for. Henry, were you originally trying to flash the halogen bulb? It may be drawing too much current.
Jack E/NJ Last edited by Jack E/NJ; 02-24-2012 at 08:20 PM. |
02-24-2012, 11:07 PM | #24 |
Senior Member
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
I use a 12 flasher on 6 volt but wired into each side a std 12volt tail light bolb to get it to work .it flashes under the dash
|
02-24-2012, 11:33 PM | #25 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
I started just trying to flash the 1.5 cp bulb alone. It wouldn't even flash, not enough load. So, I added the 1 ohm resistor parallel with the bulb which added more load, less resistance and it flashed but too fast. I then added a buzzer in parallel with the bulb and resistor so I wouldn't leave it on. No change in speed. I then installed the halogen bulbs. No change. I then cut out the resistor but left the buzzer. No change. I haven't tried a second bulb in parallel with the one bulb and probably won't until I try the Honda 6 volt two prong electronic flasher I have coming. Wiring anything in series with the bulb would just dim the bulb, decrease the load, and increase the resistence so I wouldn't do that.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-25-2012, 12:15 AM | #26 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)
Thanks for all of your ideas. It's amazing the amount of help available on this forum for every problem, large or small. I didn't think I'd get any response to this trivial question. Thanks again.
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
02-25-2012, 12:10 PM | #27 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,173
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Old Henry>>>The standard 535 thermal flasher flashes too fast for me.>>>
With all the combinations you've tried with no change in the flash rate, Henry, I'm now curious about what's actually inside this 535 can. If I had an alleged thermal flasher that acted like that, I'd hafta pry the can's eartabs back, pull it off and see what's mounted on the board. Aren't you curious too? 8^) Jack E/NJ |
02-25-2012, 04:10 PM | #28 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Quote:
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness |
|
02-27-2012, 09:10 PM | #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Orem, Utah
Posts: 5,762
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Jack E/NJ wins the prize.
Once again: "In problem solving, more often than not, the most obvious answer tends to be the correct one." So it was with this problem. Bought a new 6 volt thermal flasher just like the one I was already using it worked just like it is supposed to! No need for any of the other "creative" solutions we all came up with nor the 6 volt electronic flasher that's on its way. Reminds me of the time I spent two hours at night on the side of the road testing everything under the hood to try to figure out why my engine died and wouldn't start again until I finally realized that it was out of gas!
__________________
Prof. Henry (The Roaming Gnome) "It is good to have an end to journey toward; but it is the journey that matters, in the end.” *Ursula K. Le Guin in The Left Hand of Darkness Last edited by Old Henry; 02-27-2012 at 09:42 PM. |
01-25-2020, 09:01 PM | #30 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Florida and Penna.
Posts: 4,471
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Quote:
__________________
www.fordcollector.com |
|
01-26-2020, 10:10 AM | #31 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Oakville Ontario
Posts: 586
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
he solved it in 2012 first heard of 535 -+ carry on
|
01-26-2020, 10:29 AM | #32 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Dighton, Mass
Posts: 1,230
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Welcome to this day and age. A late pickup we towed in, fuel pump. You have to take the body off to get at it. THREE pumps from Napa, Junk, finally the forth one worked. I can not blame Napa but thats where they get things, cause here, we build low cost housing and not US factory's no more. And we all know the story with 'condensers and points made in some grass shack' across the pond. And these in tank pumps are big bucks: end of rant...
|
02-01-2020, 11:36 PM | #33 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Elk Grove, CA
Posts: 663
|
Re: Where to get 6 volt positive ground elecronic flasher?
Old Henry, I haven't been on for quite awhile but found your post, on the 6v relay issue, someone mentioned the Napa #535 which is 3 prong but I saw that it is a 12v, and i remember using a reducer that changes 12v to 6v for a 6v radio in my vw years ago Here is the item i'm talking about on ebay for $9.99
maybe this would work with the napa flasher for you on your 47. the ebay item # 392475305555 Painless Wiring 40027 Voltage Reducer 12 V to 6 V 4 Amp Maximum Load Each all this being said i'm not a great electical guy.. just my disclaimer. go to ebay find advance tab click on it put in item # and hit enter it will come up. here is what it looks like http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL175.../414376461.jpg you might have resolved the issue already, but maybe future reference, good to see u still on here. |
|
|
Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) |
|