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Old 09-24-2019, 03:40 PM   #1
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Default Radial tires and inner tubes

I understand now that I need new tires that going with the radial tires is worth the extra money for the better handling that come with them. But what I've learned is that the inner tubes I have state they are for non-radial only. So, where can I get radial approved inner tubes for my 21" wheels?
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:55 PM   #2
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I purchased my Model A radial tires (19") from Coker Tire. I bought the radial tire inner tubes from them also.
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:57 PM   #3
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I just ordered radial tires and tubes 2 days ago from Coker tire. I’m picking them up at Hershey so I can’t give you any kind of review. The salesman said that they carry Hartford tubes witch got a good review here at the barn. Try them
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:30 PM   #4
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The tires are made in USA and the tubes I got from Coker tire are made in China. Just FYI.
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Old 09-24-2019, 08:59 PM   #5
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I just bought a set from Lucas, 19 inch,same tire better price. I also got tubes and they were heavy, they said nothing about not for radial so we'll see how they work. I planning on a long trip next month.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:20 PM   #6
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I just bought a set from Lucas, 19 inch,same tire better price. I also got tubes and they were heavy, they said nothing about not for radial so we'll see how they work. I planning on a long trip next month.

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I have nothing to do with Coker Tire.
I bought the same "American Classic" 19" BW radial from Coker for the same $206 that Lucas has on their website. I got shipping included from Coker.
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:54 PM   #7
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When I fitted radial tyres to my A I simply re-used the original tubes without thinking that there could be any problems. So far, some many thousands of miles later there have been no problems. The tyres are relatively stiff compared with those seen on modern cars and do not have that squashed look of a modern radial. The steering and handling has been substantially improved.
Can someone explain the effect a radial tyre might have on the tube?
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:09 PM   #8
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I have a 1930 Tudor with standard 19" rims. I purchased a set of Radial Whitewalls and a set of new tubes that were made to go into radials. I put the tires on about a week ago and it is one of the best things I have ever done for my car. The ride is smoother and quieter, the car does not dart around on uneven roads and many other improvements.
* All I can say are good things about my new radial tires....
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Old 09-26-2019, 01:27 AM   #9
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Just to avoid confusion, ya'll are talking about the American Classic Radial and not the Excelsior Stahl Redial, right?
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:20 AM   #10
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Can someone explain the effect a radial tyre might have on the tube?

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https://www.acdclub.org/forum/genera...-tires?start=6
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Old 09-26-2019, 04:29 PM   #11
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Thanks Updraught, I read the thread material and really it still did not clarify the tube issue?
The Stahl Sport Radials fitted to my car have "tube type" on their side walls,
They were fitted by an experienced tyre fitter and he did not query the type of tube fitted.
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Thanks Updraught, I read the thread material and really it still did not clarify the tube issue?
The Stahl Sport Radials fitted to my car have "tube type" on their side walls,
They were fitted by an experienced tyre fitter and he did not query the type of tube fitted.
This is my take away from it. Heard it several times.
"Stan says that a radial tube is different from a bias-ply tube. The bias-ply tube has a butt joint around the circumference of the tube. Radial tubes must have an overlapping joint."

Also, radial tubes should be much thicker.
I don't know what a lap joint looks like. My tubes from Coker are super heavy. Expensive too. Not sure there are any tire dealers here in Oz that sell the radial tubes.

Anyways, it says if you drive at tractor speed you should be OK!
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Old 09-27-2019, 11:14 PM   #13
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924.00 set of 4 delivered with tubes and liners, American Classic. from Lucas, Coker wanted 174 dollars for shipping. The tire says 35 psi, looks like tire is low. The ride is comfortable, we have brick streets here now you can't feel the bricks or cracks in the road.

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Lot of money.


IMO ANY new tire is going to "ride and feel" better than what they replaced.
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Old 09-28-2019, 02:15 PM   #15
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Well worth the extra Money.
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This is my take away from it. Heard it several times.
"Stan says that a radial tube is different from a bias-ply tube. The bias-ply tube has a butt joint around the circumference of the tube. Radial tubes must have an overlapping joint."

Also, radial tubes should be much thicker.
I don't know what a lap joint looks like. My tubes from Coker are super heavy. Expensive too. Not sure there are any tire dealers here in Oz that sell the radial tubes.

Anyways, it says if you drive at tractor speed you should be OK!


Thanks again, our car is used for long distance touring and cruises at anything between 90 and 110kph. So far after many miles, no problems with the tubes. The cynic in me wonders if it's a way to sell more product?
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Thanks again, our car is used for long distance touring and cruises at anything between 90 and 110kph. So far after many miles, no problems with the tubes. The cynic in me wonders if it's a way to sell more product?
The thing is, we are in unchartered waters here. Radials weren't designed for skinny wheels.
It's a small market.
It would be interesting to know the results of testing with different tubes. We don't have that. With the proliferation of dud tubes these days, most are lucky to survive on a cross ply.
Your tubes might be OK, but the next guy that tries it mightn't be so lucky.

I had to buy tubes anyway, so I looked for the best I could get and they are radial type. They will be going in cross plies, but it means I can upgrade to a radial tire at a later date.
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