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mikhett · 08-01-2015, 09:38 AM

I drained the oil today as to remove pan and loosen main bearing caps (as per OLE DON) and water came out of the pan.I will let drain overnight thenremove pan.I guess my car cover is not WATERPROOF!For 225.00 you think it would be!

dmsfrr · 08-01-2015, 09:59 AM

Try to figure out how water got in the engine. Are the hood and carburetor off of it and rain water got in thru the intake manifold? Is the intake manifold off?
If it's coolant is the block or a head cracked?
My guess is you'll be pulling the engine out of the car pretty soon.

mikhett · 08-01-2015, 10:54 AM

I pulled hood off in may to do bodywork but pulled car cover over enging bay with air cleaner on.I should have covered air cleaner as I noticed water pooling on it.I pulled plugs and ran marvel mystery oil down cylinders. STARTER WOULDN'T CRANK ENGINE so I pulled starter but I can't turn it over via damper bolt either.

wellcraft17 · 08-01-2015, 12:31 PM

Apparently rain water has drained down the intake manifold past some intake valves that were open and sat in the cylinders long enough for the rings to seize to the cylinders. Before pulling the oil pan I would remove the pan on the bottom of the bell housing, get a long pry bar, put it in the ring gear teeth and try and move the flywheel back and forth. If you can get the flywheel to move just a little it should free up the more you pry on the flywheel with the bar working it back and forth. If you get to the point where you have turned the engine over one full revolution reinstall the starter and crank the engine over with it until all the crap has been blown out of the cylinders. Make sure you have put some cheap oil back in the crankcase cause you will be flushing the engine with it and then draining it again. If you are really lucky there won't be any major damage.

Ole Don · 08-01-2015, 12:43 PM

I agree with Wellcraft. One more thing about half way through though, remove both rocker covers, and press down each valve with a hammer handle to make sure all the valves will move. If you believe in prayer, start now. It looks grim.

wellcraft17 · 08-01-2015, 01:23 PM

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Ole Don is correct, there's always the possibility that an intake valve will hang up and not close all the way back on the seat due to the valve stem has rusted. If that would happen there is a possibility the push rod may fall off the rocker arm causing more issues.

scicala · 08-08-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by wellcraft17

Ole Don is correct, there's always the possibility that an intake valve will hang up and not close all the way back on the seat due to the valve stem has rusted. If that would happen there is a possibility the push rod may fall off the rocker arm causing more issues.

There is always at least one intake valve open when the engine is shut off. Doesn't have to be a stuck valve.

Sal

08-01-2015, 09:38 AM	#1
mikhett Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jackson N.J Posts: 206	56 292 no crank pt 4 I drained the oil today as to remove pan and loosen main bearing caps (as per OLE DON) and water came out of the pan.I will let drain overnight thenremove pan.I guess my car cover is not WATERPROOF!For 225.00 you think it would be!

08-01-2015, 09:59 AM	#2
dmsfrr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Abq, NM Posts: 3,607	Re: 56 292 no crank pt 4 Try to figure out how water got in the engine. Are the hood and carburetor off of it and rain water got in thru the intake manifold? Is the intake manifold off? If it's coolant is the block or a head cracked? My guess is you'll be pulling the engine out of the car pretty soon.

08-01-2015, 10:54 AM	#3
mikhett Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jackson N.J Posts: 206	Re: 56 292 no crank pt 4 I pulled hood off in may to do bodywork but pulled car cover over enging bay with air cleaner on.I should have covered air cleaner as I noticed water pooling on it.I pulled plugs and ran marvel mystery oil down cylinders. STARTER WOULDN'T CRANK ENGINE so I pulled starter but I can't turn it over via damper bolt either.

08-01-2015, 12:31 PM	#4
wellcraft17 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tampa fl Posts: 130	Re: 56 292 no crank pt 4 Apparently rain water has drained down the intake manifold past some intake valves that were open and sat in the cylinders long enough for the rings to seize to the cylinders. Before pulling the oil pan I would remove the pan on the bottom of the bell housing, get a long pry bar, put it in the ring gear teeth and try and move the flywheel back and forth. If you can get the flywheel to move just a little it should free up the more you pry on the flywheel with the bar working it back and forth. If you get to the point where you have turned the engine over one full revolution reinstall the starter and crank the engine over with it until all the crap has been blown out of the cylinders. Make sure you have put some cheap oil back in the crankcase cause you will be flushing the engine with it and then draining it again. If you are really lucky there won't be any major damage.

08-01-2015, 12:43 PM	#5
Ole Don Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Michael, Minnesota Posts: 1,713	Re: 56 292 no crank pt 4 I agree with Wellcraft. One more thing about half way through though, remove both rocker covers, and press down each valve with a hammer handle to make sure all the valves will move. If you believe in prayer, start now. It looks grim.

08-01-2015, 01:23 PM	#6
wellcraft17 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Tampa fl Posts: 130	Re: 56 292 no crank pt 4 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ole Don is correct, there's always the possibility that an intake valve will hang up and not close all the way back on the seat due to the valve stem has rusted. If that would happen there is a possibility the push rod may fall off the rocker arm causing more issues.