The Ford Barn

fiddy6 · 11-11-2018, 11:33 PM

Hello Barn'rs

I need help identifying this. Please see picture. It's the bit that attachs to the underside of the fender. It's got heaps of rust holes in it.

I'm hoping to find a replacement... I need left and right.

Thanks

Geoff

fiddy6 · 11-11-2018, 11:33 PM

Oh... it's a 56 victoria

mercman from oz · 11-12-2018, 01:50 AM

This photo is of a 1956 Ford Sunliner before the front fenders were installed. Hope that this helps.

fiddy6 · 11-12-2018, 03:02 AM

Thanks mercman. The part I'm interested in is not in the image... weird. Do you have an image of the fenders? Also weird is that they are welded to the panel that the air vents are mounted to.

KULTULZ · 11-12-2018, 06:23 AM

DEFLECTOR ASSY - RADIATOR AIR | B6A 8104-B (RH) - B6A 8105-B (LH)

GOOGLE the PN's as shown and you will find them on E-BAY.

mercman from oz · 11-12-2018, 06:30 AM

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This is the best that I can do, sorry.

fiddy6 · 11-12-2018, 02:18 PM

thanks KULTULZ thats the part.

Was hoping to find just the bit that was rusty. Looks like I might have a go at making it.

Mercman, the images you show are actually missing the part thats rusty on mine.

Cheers

Geoff

Daves55Sedan · 11-12-2018, 02:53 PM

The front air deflector is made of two pieces that were resistance-welded together at the factory. The flat piece serves as an air-dam, forcing the air thru the radiator. The top curved piece provides a barrier between the fender front grille opening and the wheel-well, just behind the headlight. It also prevents rain water splashed by the front tire from spilling out over the parking light housing. That piece is notorious for rusting through because mud will collect in the little space between the fender and top piece. I have repaired those much worse than yours, but if you are not into mig welding and metalworking, you might be able to find a better replacement somewhere in the marketplace. To my knowledge, reproductions are not available. Once upon a time, the entire panel was offered as a fiberglass replacement by one of the fiberglass auto body replacement part suppliers, but that was a long time ago.

Daves55Sedan · 11-12-2018, 02:59 PM

The photos of the Sunliner posted by Mercman do not have the top pieces on the air deflector panel at the time the photos were taken. That top piece is critical as it both dams up air movement and forces the air thru the radiator and to keep rainwater from dumping onto the parking light housing. Perhaps Mercman will tell us what the owner did to correct this deficiency.

mercman from oz · 11-12-2018, 05:12 PM

I asked the owner of this nice 56 Ford about this part. This was his reply. "Yes, it attaches to the fender". Regards Mercman <><

darrell · 11-12-2018, 07:18 PM

i never understood why nobody made them.every 56 i had were rusted out.what a job trying to shape one.

fiddy6 · 12-09-2018, 02:15 AM

A job which I have started.

Because I live at the arse end of the world I've decided to repair mine. Tool I'm using are an 8oz, some gilbows, a mig and a flap disc.

54vicky · 12-09-2018, 11:29 AM

I had to look up gilbows even spell heck was not sure

I have always known them as as tin snips or shears.regardless looks as if your coming along.it is not a spot that can be seen easily when fender is installed so function should follow form.

Hot Rod Reverend · 12-09-2018, 03:38 PM

This part of my blog: https://www.hotrodreverend.com/singl...n-Blog-Part-11 should have some helpful information.

fiddy6 · 12-10-2018, 03:20 AM

Thanks. Gilbows are just the brand. They are legendary.

Nice work reverend.

fiddy6 · 12-20-2018, 03:39 AM

Done.... just needs a paint.

scicala · 12-20-2018, 11:11 AM

Very nice fiddy6 ! Plenty good considering when assembled, you can't even see that part.

Sal

54vicky · 12-20-2018, 11:19 AM

I agree with sal there are many who would not have gone through the trouble for something not seen when assembled

Merc Cruzer · 12-20-2018, 11:38 AM

Diagram from the Merc chassisbook, part of BG16083-A - Apron and deflector assy (52-53)

fiddy6 · 12-21-2018, 06:05 PM

Thanks Guys.

A few lashings of zinc paint and I hope they last another 62 years.

I know you can't see them with the fenders on but I know it's there.

To be honest it wasn't a lot of work. I did it in patches to try and retain as much of the original shape in the hope that the bolts line up when the fenders go back on.

I'm not aiming for concours... just a tidy reliable cruiser.

11-11-2018, 11:33 PM	#2
fiddy6 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 97	Re: Unknown body part Oh... it's a 56 victoria

11-12-2018, 01:50 AM	#3
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Unknown body part This photo is of a 1956 Ford Sunliner before the front fenders were installed. Hope that this helps.

11-12-2018, 03:02 AM	#4
fiddy6 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 97	Re: Unknown body part Thanks mercman. The part I'm interested in is not in the image... weird. Do you have an image of the fenders? Also weird is that they are welded to the panel that the air vents are mounted to. Last edited by fiddy6; 11-12-2018 at 04:27 AM.

11-12-2018, 06:30 AM	#6
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Unknown body part Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) This is the best that I can do, sorry.

11-12-2018, 02:18 PM	#7
fiddy6 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 97	Re: Unknown body part thanks KULTULZ thats the part. Was hoping to find just the bit that was rusty. Looks like I might have a go at making it. Mercman, the images you show are actually missing the part thats rusty on mine. Cheers Geoff

11-12-2018, 02:53 PM	#8
Daves55Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Granite City, Illinois Posts: 3,008	Re: Unknown body part The front air deflector is made of two pieces that were resistance-welded together at the factory. The flat piece serves as an air-dam, forcing the air thru the radiator. The top curved piece provides a barrier between the fender front grille opening and the wheel-well, just behind the headlight. It also prevents rain water splashed by the front tire from spilling out over the parking light housing. That piece is notorious for rusting through because mud will collect in the little space between the fender and top piece. I have repaired those much worse than yours, but if you are not into mig welding and metalworking, you might be able to find a better replacement somewhere in the marketplace. To my knowledge, reproductions are not available. Once upon a time, the entire panel was offered as a fiberglass replacement by one of the fiberglass auto body replacement part suppliers, but that was a long time ago.

11-12-2018, 02:59 PM	#9
Daves55Sedan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Granite City, Illinois Posts: 3,008	Re: Unknown body part The photos of the Sunliner posted by Mercman do not have the top pieces on the air deflector panel at the time the photos were taken. That top piece is critical as it both dams up air movement and forces the air thru the radiator and to keep rainwater from dumping onto the parking light housing. Perhaps Mercman will tell us what the owner did to correct this deficiency.

11-12-2018, 05:12 PM	#10
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: Unknown body part I asked the owner of this nice 56 Ford about this part. This was his reply. "Yes, it attaches to the fender". Regards Mercman <><

11-12-2018, 07:18 PM	#11
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: Unknown body part i never understood why nobody made them.every 56 i had were rusted out.what a job trying to shape one.

12-09-2018, 11:29 AM	#13
54vicky Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Oakville Ontario Posts: 586	Re: Unknown body part I had to look up gilbows even spell heck was not sure I have always known them as as tin snips or shears.regardless looks as if your coming along.it is not a spot that can be seen easily when fender is installed so function should follow form.

12-09-2018, 03:38 PM	#14
Hot Rod Reverend Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lancaster, CA Posts: 917	Re: Unknown body part This part of my blog: https://www.hotrodreverend.com/singl...n-Blog-Part-11 should have some helpful information. __________________ Lancaster, California Visit hotrodreverend.com to view hundreds of pictures and videos of the build of the 1955 Ford Club Sedan!

12-10-2018, 03:20 AM	#15
fiddy6 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 97	Re: Unknown body part Thanks. Gilbows are just the brand. They are legendary. Nice work reverend.

12-20-2018, 11:11 AM	#17
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Unknown body part Very nice fiddy6 ! Plenty good considering when assembled, you can't even see that part. Sal

12-20-2018, 11:19 AM	#18
54vicky Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Oakville Ontario Posts: 586	Re: Unknown body part I agree with sal there are many who would not have gone through the trouble for something not seen when assembled