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Henry Floored · 09-21-2019, 07:34 PM

Hey gang it might be fun to talk about and share pictures of unusual carburetor choices on Flathead Ford engines. I’m really talking about anything other than the normal 3 bolt 94 Holley/Fords and Stromberg 97’s.

I’ve looked on several occasions at some Italian “Vee” engine’s with their Weber and Del’Orto carbs and thought hmmmm???

Carbs like those ^^^ are often designed for 60 degree V6’s and V12’s which have narrow intake manifolding like our Fords.

So I’m curious if any of you have strayed from the beaten path. I’ll bet there’s a few that have used a Rochester 2GC, another good one.

What about Autolite 2100’s and 4100’s that came on small Ford V8’s in the 60’s.

Let it rip fellas if you have anything to say about this. Very interested to hear what you’ve done or plan to do in the future.

Thanks!

Tim Ayers · 09-21-2019, 07:39 PM

I've seen one barrel Marvels with a Stromberg/Holley type base. Someone told me they were replacements. Same CFM, just one large single throat vs. two if I recall correctly.

I also think there were some 3 bolt Strombergs that had "L" backdraft horn that were used on Studebaker's of some sort. I could be wrong on this.

tubman · 09-21-2019, 07:46 PM

This is probably not what you wanted to see, but here are some pictures of my attempt to put a Quadrajet on a flathead. I figure if the would run on a 3.8 liter Buick, they could be made to work on a 3.9 liter flathead. I only had a couple of junk Quadrajets, and I couldn't get it to run worth a shit. I have a bunch of other stuff going on, so I abandoned the project.

I do plan to get back on it some day.

paul2748 · 09-21-2019, 07:48 PM

Probably should have used an adapter that had 4 holes in it, not the open one.

scicala · 09-22-2019, 12:43 PM

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Probably should have used an adapter that had 4 holes in it, not the open one.

I don't think there is an adaptor for a spread bore four barrel carb to a small base four barrel manifold. That setup looks like the air slams into a wall. I'm sure it would cause turbulence.

Sal

51 MERC-CT · 09-22-2019, 12:45 PM

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Tim Ayers · 09-26-2019, 01:30 PM

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This is photo shopped, right?

Henry Floored · 09-21-2019, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tubman

This is probably not what you wanted to see, but here are some pictures of my attempt to put a Quadrajet on a flathead. I figure if the would run on a 3.8 liter Buick, they could be made to work on a 3.9 liter flathead. I only had a couple of junk Quadrajets, and I couldn't get it to run worth a shit. I have a bunch of other stuff going on, so I abandoned the project.

I do plan to get back on it some day.

Au contraire Tubman that is a very interesting project. I hope you get a chance to try it again.

51504bat · 09-21-2019, 10:09 PM

JMO but a quadrajet on a flathead is just plain wrong.

40 Deluxe · 09-22-2019, 12:41 AM

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JMO but a quadrajet on a flathead is just plain wrong.

Can't be wrong if it runs right! A Q-jet from a 3.8 Buick etc. should be jetted right ,or at least close, and the small primary throttle bores are ideal. Those huge secondaries have an adjustable air valve above the throttle plates so no danger of over-carburetion. Just find or make a good flowing adapter and you're good to go with a little tuning (which you should do with any carb).

19Fordy · 09-22-2019, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 51504bat

JMO but a quadrajet on a flathead is just plain wrong.

Not true, IMO.

40 Deluxe · 09-22-2019, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 19Fordy

Not true, IMO.

Good to see that a Holley equipped flatty owner also likes Q-jets!

petehoovie · 09-21-2019, 07:54 PM

tubman · 09-21-2019, 07:56 PM

You're probably right. I had a bunch of parts laying around and I thought I'd try it. I had zero dollars in the attempt.

petehoovie · 09-21-2019, 08:05 PM

Ziggster · 09-23-2019, 06:07 PM

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Do you know why the engine was installed backwards?

Tim Ayers · 09-23-2019, 06:16 PM

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Do you know why the engine was installed backwards?

Front wheel drive Miller race car

Pete · 09-23-2019, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by petehoovie

Are those Fish carbs? The Fish carb was a very good design that didn't catch on.

Tim Ayers · 09-23-2019, 08:12 PM

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Are those Fish carbs? The Fish carb was a very good design that didn't catch on.

Pete

I don’t think so. The first FWD Millers used that special 4x1 intakes. Later ones used a Hexagon Tool 2x2.

I forgot who made those 1 barrels for these cars.

09-21-2019, 07:34 PM	#1
Henry Floored Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 583	Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s Hey gang it might be fun to talk about and share pictures of unusual carburetor choices on Flathead Ford engines. I’m really talking about anything other than the normal 3 bolt 94 Holley/Fords and Stromberg 97’s. I’ve looked on several occasions at some Italian “Vee” engine’s with their Weber and Del’Orto carbs and thought hmmmm??? Carbs like those ^^^ are often designed for 60 degree V6’s and V12’s which have narrow intake manifolding like our Fords. So I’m curious if any of you have strayed from the beaten path. I’ll bet there’s a few that have used a Rochester 2GC, another good one. What about Autolite 2100’s and 4100’s that came on small Ford V8’s in the 60’s. Let it rip fellas if you have anything to say about this. Very interested to hear what you’ve done or plan to do in the future. Thanks!

09-21-2019, 07:39 PM	#2
Tim Ayers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 6,177	Re: Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s I've seen one barrel Marvels with a Stromberg/Holley type base. Someone told me they were replacements. Same CFM, just one large single throat vs. two if I recall correctly. I also think there were some 3 bolt Strombergs that had "L" backdraft horn that were used on Studebaker's of some sort. I could be wrong on this.

09-21-2019, 07:48 PM	#4
paul2748 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Midland Park, NJ Posts: 3,979	Re: Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s Probably should have used an adapter that had 4 holes in it, not the open one. __________________ 48 Ford Conv 56 Tbird 54 Ford Victoria

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51504bat Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: SoCal-Redlands Posts: 3,013	Re: Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s JMO but a quadrajet on a flathead is just plain wrong. __________________ Making the simple complicated for over 30 years.

09-21-2019, 07:54 PM	#14
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,076	Re: Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

09-21-2019, 07:56 PM	#15
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,303	Re: Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s You're probably right. I had a bunch of parts laying around and I thought I'd try it. I had zero dollars in the attempt.

09-21-2019, 08:05 PM	#16
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,076	Re: Unusual carburation on Flathead V8’s __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0