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10-04-2019, 02:26 AM | #1 |
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Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
I have an etching kit to install the Ford Bugs on to my glass.
Problem, I have had it a couple of years now and when I went to try it the other day I found that the activator had escaped from its container. The top was on tight but somehow must have leaked via a bad seal. Has someone on Fordbarn recently etched their glass, and would they have surplus to requirements some activator that they would be prepared to part with? The kit was originally sold by Mike Driskell in case there are variations in other suppliers kits. Thanks Graham |
10-04-2019, 07:56 AM | #2 |
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Graham, I just pm’ed you. The activator and etching cream both have a shelf life so check the etching cream to insure it is still good. If it is not I will gladly mail you more.
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10-04-2019, 08:09 AM | #3 |
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I'll 2nd that. They take good care of their customers!!
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10-04-2019, 12:56 PM | #5 |
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Absolutely a quality product! I was very apprehensive about putting an etching solution on a brand new windshield and it worked great! There is no way to tell the difference between the original "bug" and the new kit.
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10-04-2019, 03:07 PM | #6 |
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10-04-2019, 03:45 PM | #8 |
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In a pinch, they sell glass etching solution in most craft stores. It worked well for me.
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10-04-2019, 03:49 PM | #9 |
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Gotta be careful with “some” of the store bought etching solutions as some aren’t compatible with the stencils and some can damage paint if accidentally it were to come in contact with it
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10-04-2019, 06:46 PM | #10 |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
Aren't the original bugs in the middle of two pieces of glass? Do these etching kits have a year with the stencil?
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10-04-2019, 07:49 PM | #11 |
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No, they aren't sandwiched between the glass. When you order a set, you order them date coded.
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10-04-2019, 09:13 PM | #12 |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
All we need is your month and year and we supply the rest. On 1937- and up vehicles the windshield takes a different bug from the side windows.
Originally they were media blasted on with a rubber brass stencil. The kit we sell is a acid etch and when finished they look just as original. Earlier this year we were doing a lot of custom kits, where street rod builders wanted us to make stencils with their logo so that as the car changed hands people always would know who built the car. Clever little idea far fetched from originality |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
As a side note, Bugs were originally placed on the glass to indicate that the glass was safety glass and not just plain plate glass.
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10-05-2019, 06:22 AM | #14 |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
On an F1, do the bugs face into the cab or face out. I think they face in but want to confirm.
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10-05-2019, 11:06 AM | #15 |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
Ford had their own glass plants. They certainly wanted folks to know that it was their product.
On flat glass, it can be installed on both right and left sides. If there is no individual part numbers for right and left sides then one side could be on the inside and one could be on the outside depending on which side the bugs were put on at the Ford glass plants. When the vent window assemblies were made, it could end up the same way but Ford usually had them on the outside so they may have had right and left glasses. Replacements could also end up the same way if they used genuine Ford glass. I don't know what the manufacturing processes were so I can't say whether they were installed in frames at the glass plant or at the assembly agencies. If they were prepped for assembly at the glass plants then the bugs may have been put on for right and left after there was an assembly that could be identified that way. It would be nice to know how they did it but all we have now is actual vehicles that still have the original glass in them. Maybe an original F1 owner will step up. |
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As Ford's engineering drawings were made for the right side component and not for the left side when the components weren't functionally different side to side, flat glass such as door glass of the period would have the logo readable on the inside of the car/cab on the right side and readable on the outside on the left side door glass.
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10-05-2019, 03:46 PM | #17 |
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There is a complete description about the "bugs" in the 1941/1948 Ford book offered by the V-8 Club. Interesting read.
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10-05-2019, 11:10 PM | #18 |
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Do these "Bugs" go on all the vehicles glass? How far up in the years do they go?
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10-09-2019, 07:17 AM | #20 |
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That's the same question I had 45-50 years ago when I listened in on conversations about having bugs on glass. It took me awhile to figure out what they were really talking about.
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10-09-2019, 09:31 AM | #21 |
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Since I'm a mechanic by trade and careful with my funds, I've never owned a new car or truck. Both of my later model Ford/Mercury vehicles have bugs on the glass. They aren't for the same purpose as they once were but they are still marked by the manufacturer as far as I am aware. Carlite & Carlex are the more modern names for Ford glass.
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10-13-2019, 09:53 PM | #23 |
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10-15-2019, 03:42 PM | #24 |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
Ford starting using them in the Model A era one the windshield only with the exception of special order cars and town cars. They were applied to all the glass from 1932 up till the present day, with the exception of 1932 standards and other odd ball vehicles such as school buses. Basically any piece of glass that was safety glass rather than the ordinary plate glass, got a bug or marking of some sort and still does to this day
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Mike, did you get my message?
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10-21-2019, 09:18 PM | #26 |
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All the way up to this year's new cars and trucks.
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10-24-2019, 12:52 AM | #28 |
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
Thank you Dave! Been waiting for a reply. I presume they are on all window glass?
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10-24-2019, 07:06 AM | #29 |
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Yes, ever since all of the glass used was either tempered or laminated 'safety' glass.
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Re: Etching Ford Bugs on to glass.
Hello,on standard model Fords , the side glass was plate glass.does anyone know if they had “bugs”on them? I know on deluxe models they were safety glass ,would be a option on standard models up to at least 1934 ,assuming the plate glass is unmarked.
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10-24-2019, 07:26 PM | #32 |
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you are correct Plate glass was unmarked. However, and I may be wrong, but I believe all 1934's had safety glass both STD and Deluxe.
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10-25-2019, 12:33 AM | #33 |
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Sorry, I missed that post, great info. So for my '32 Model B 5W I'll only need them for the windshield and backlight I presume. For my '56 Meteor Victoria every piece gets them if I need to replace. Do you know if any reproduced glass have them already installed?
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To answer your questions, yes and yes... presuming your 1932 is a standard not a deluxe.
Sanders glass sells excellent reproduction glass with the bugs etched in already. They are a good company to deal with but very expensive. They do the bugs by blasting them on as original. Sanders glass also offered the original type black edged glass There are a few other small glass companies that will sell you glass with the bugs in place, but all they are doing is ordering the kit from us and acid etching it in place prior to shipping. |
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Thanks!
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