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Old 09-15-2019, 04:09 PM   #1
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Hi

When trying to get out of the truck last night. The inside handle just slipped and I could not open door from inside. So I reached out and opened for from outside handle.

Outside handle work fine (latch moves as it should). Inside handle slip in both locking and opening attempts.

Today I tried to remove the inside handle, but when I push the spring back for access to the pin, to knock pin out. I can located the pin hole, but since the handle slips I can’t figure out where the pin is.

It looks like the handle is moving and then there is a chrome sleeve.

I’m hoping it just the pin broke. But the shop manual doesn’t go into removal of inside handle.

Hope I described this correctly.....

Suggestions / help as always greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-15-2019, 05:09 PM   #2
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Based on the typical wear issues with these mechanisms, the pin isn't likely the issue.

You'll need to hold the escutcheon ring back against the door to remove the pin. Use the blade of a screwdriver or other tool for this task. The pin should slide out easily and the inner handle is freed.

More often, the latch mechanism has a couple of wear points that cause the problem you described - outer handle works but not the inner. To access the mechanism, the inspection panel on the door needs to be removed. There are screws by the inner handle and the latch that need to be removed - the outer handle will need be separated as well. Getting the mechanism out of the door requires some dancing - it works better with the window up, if I recall correctly.

With the mechanism out, you'll be able to look over the condition. Repairs are possible but the housing for the latch is a poor design with ear tabs that are prone to cracking. Get it out and let us know what you find.

Happily, there actually are reproduction pieces available - AND THEY FIT - AND THEY WORK!!! Find them on ebay.
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Old 09-16-2019, 04:58 AM   #3
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Thank the issue is typically you locate the hole and the pin is inline with the hole. Not the case here
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:35 PM   #4
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If the pin is really sheared, can you just pull the handle off?
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:48 PM   #5
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Ross no I tried. I’ll keep at it sooner or later I’ll find the pin

Found this pic online at least now I have an idea where to look
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Perhaps I'm missing the issue here. There aren't many places to hide the pin. The inner handle shaft aligns with the holes on the mechanism shaft - the pin spans between the pieces.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:21 PM   #7
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I’ll keep trying. The problem, I think, is my handle stops (maybe due to whatever is broke) before I can see the pin to inner handle shaft.
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Sometimes there are two holes in the handle 90 degrees apart
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If something is broken in the mechanism, you may want to try pulling out on the handle while pushing the trim in. You have to push the trim in pretty hard, don't be afraid to be forceful.
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:02 PM   #10
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Many thanks to Jersey Devil (Tom).

For the next person who may have same issue. Unlike my 39, the truck handle has 4 holes. I assume they did so you had option on handle direction. I thought (like my 39) there were only 2 holes. Trying find pin when using the wrong hole is a waste of time

Tom thanks again!
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Old 09-17-2019, 06:05 PM   #11
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Andy

Andy, glad to help, call me anytime.

Thanks for the reply. It is not often that we get a conclusion to a problem.

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