Spring Carlisle

[skidmarks]

Thought about going to spring Carlisle that started today, but there was a news headline that the Pennsylvania health department is sueing them for having the show.

Is anyone there? Or known if its getting shut down?

[DavidG]

It was foolhardy of the organizers to proceed despite all of the other car-related events being cancelled in the state. Evidently they didn't seek the state health department's approval or they asked the wrong person.

[36 ford]

here's the story...


https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...-car-show.html

[ronn]

just another "rich" governor trying to control the masses...........

[woodiewagon46]

Just a good governor, upholding the law and trying to protect people.

[Jack Shaft]

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The whole idea of cancelling mass events and quarantine was to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed with cases..it never happened.Over 50% of the deaths so far are seniors in nursing homes,a lot due to policies that put them directly in harm's way. This has gone well beyond a simple public health issue.

[PeteVS]

The news I've seen is from a day or two ago. Is it happening? Has anyone been there?

[tubman]

There is a thread on the H.A.M.B. regarding this. There is something going on out there.

[sawzall]

just heard from a friend who is there, about 50% full..

[Ronnieroadster]

Originally Posted by sawzall

just heard from a friend who is there, about 50% full..

Hey good for them there social distancing. Its just a flu it will be gone soon!
Who cares about hospital workers anyway.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by ronnieroadster

who cares about hospital workers anyway.

you SERIOUSLY don't care about hospital workers?


dd

[DavidG]

It was obviously a rhetorical question.

[tubman]

Sorry, not obvious to me. Nor to many others, I would surmise.

[Yoyodyne]

It's on, lightly attended. Wolf went to court to shut it down, it's being appealed, lots of drama. Article here - https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/0...D1BwJCRluGX_dg

[keith oh]

The country is going to have to start opening up sometime, someway, soon. Maybe this is how it will happen.

[34fordy]

Originally Posted by DavidG

It was obviously a rhetorical question.

Sometimes called a "reverse polarity question", a truly FORD tradition!

[Charlie ny]

The judge in post #3 seems to make sense to me. Guys I know who are down there
are masked as need be and certainly refrain from shoulder to shoulder. Just exercising
their rights.

Charlie ny

[Terry,OH]

I understand they moved the date of the Canfield, Ohio swap to 7-17 to 19-2020

[Frank Miller]

I've been doing everything possible to catch it for 3 months now. What am I doing wrong. We are all going to die someday of something. If you knew you had 3 months to live, how would you feel about the government cancelling the last 3 months of your life.
What no one is discussing is the number of deaths from this quarantine. That might make it inconvenient. It's like putting in a cam because you like the lumpy idle but the car runs like crap at every other point. Let's just ignore that.

[Jack Shaft]

There is more than enough hospital beds,millons was spent building tent hospitals that werent used.The Navy hospital ships werent used.Quarantine isnt necessary,social distancing is debatable..if you have co morbidity or geriatric (not old,ancient ) take precautions..other than that its all politics and loss of freedom.

[51504bat]

I thought this was about Spring Carlisle and not politics?

[skidmarks]

Originally Posted by 51504bat

I thought this was about Spring Carlisle and not politics?

It is about the show and i didnt go, but its the political crowd trying to shut it down

[Kruzn40]

Originally Posted by skidmarks

It is about the show and i didnt go, but its the political crowd trying to shut it down

The "political crowd" is trying to shut it down because they will be the first to be burned at the stake if they don't in the event that things go south.

But with thousands mingling together with no PPE in the midst of a lethal pandemic, what on earth could go wrong?

[petehoovie]

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/202...ign=2020-06-19


Despite a Pennsylvania Health Department lawsuit filed this week against Carlisle Events seeking to shut down the twice-postponed Spring Carlisle show and swap meet, Carlisle officials intend to keep the event's gates open through this weekend.

[Ronnieroadster]

Originally Posted by Jack Shaft

There is more than enough hospital beds,millons was spent building tent hospitals that werent used.The Navy hospital ships werent used.Quarantine isnt necessary,social distancing is debatable..if you have co morbidity or geriatric (not old,ancient ) take precautions..other than that its all politics and loss of freedom.

So the hospital workers who have had to and continue to deal with this are just faking it! Not a loss of freedom its common sense to try and protect one another.

[JSeery]

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UPDATE: Multiple news outlets are reporting that Carlisle Events and the Pennsylvania Department of Health have reach an agreement in principle that will allow Spring Carlisle to continue. Details of the agreement have not yet been released.

Well, that is interesting.

[skidmarks]

Originally Posted by Kruzn40

The "political crowd" is trying to shut it down because they will be the first to be burned at the stake if they don't in the event that things go south.

But with thousands mingling together with no PPE in the midst of a lethal pandemic, what on earth could go wrong?

The amusement parks are open.......protest marches are OK... the ones in charge along with the media contradict each other..... lots of odd messages are being passed back and forth......but the last news was an agreement was reached and the show goes on........

[skidmarks]

THE REAL QUESTION..did anyone go? And was there anything worth buying? Last time i was there, there was plenty of lawn mowers, step latters and vacuum cleaners.

[Jack Shaft]

Originally Posted by Ronnieroadster

So the hospital workers who have had to and continue to deal with this are just faking it! Not a loss of freedom its common sense to try and protect one another.

Deal with what? Have you seen pictures of overcrowded hospitals? I havent..Outhere hospitals are in financial trouble due to a lack of people getting proceedures..koolaide,great on a hot day,but you need to put the cup down and see whats going on...

[Frank Miller]

Originally Posted by skidmarks

THE REAL QUESTION..did anyone go? And was there anything worth buying? Last time i was there, there was plenty of lawn mowers, step latters and vacuum cleaners.

A friend went and while he sold stuff he said it is not as goos as it usually is. He did not seem to regret his decision to go.

[russcc]

Some valid observations about the gravity of the alleged virus issue.

[Ronnieroadster]

Originally Posted by Jack Shaft

Deal with what? Have you seen pictures of overcrowded hospitals? I havent..Outhere hospitals are in financial trouble due to a lack of people getting proceedures..koolaide,great on a hot day,but you need to put the cup down and see whats going on...

Reality is so far in the state where im located over 4000 deaths and not from a flu but from something they call a virus thats not fake stuff for our hospital workers. Keep hoping the hospitals in your area don't see any of this but heck sounds like they could use the business.

[paul2748]

Seems too be a lot of people here that don't mind spreading a dangerous bug to others or getting it themselves. If you get it, it can kill you. 146,000 deaths are real. And not just old folks in a nursing home.


There have been a number cases where people have thought masks and social distancing were infringes on their rights - then they caught the virus and are singing a different tune.


Lots of denial of science among a certain group of people. Maybe the earth is flat??

[paul2748]

Alleged???? Ask about the 146,000 deaths

Originally Posted by russcc

Some valid observations about the gravity of the alleged virus issue.

[tubman]

Originally Posted by paul2748

Alleged???? Ask about the 146,000 deaths

At my age, I ain't taking a chance. I've got too much stuff anyway.

[Tim Ayers]

Originally Posted by Jack Shaft

Deal with what? Have you seen pictures of overcrowded hospitals? I havent..Outhere hospitals are in financial trouble due to a lack of people getting proceedures..koolaide,great on a hot day,but you need to put the cup down and see whats going on...

Come on, man. Stop. Talk about the show or move on. The virus is real. Don't think so? Tell that to my good friend's widow and her three children. Dead at 48 and healthiest person I knew.

I hope to God no one you know dies alone in a hospital bed.

[tomcarman]

Originally Posted by Jack Shaft

There is more than enough hospital beds,millons was spent building tent hospitals that werent used.The Navy hospital ships werent used.Quarantine isnt necessary,social distancing is debatable..if you have co morbidity or geriatric (not old,ancient ) take precautions..other than that its all politics and loss of freedom.

Perhaps because the "social distancing" worked? Also, the government was prepared in the event it spread rapidly (read up on Spanish Flu pandemic1918). Another
quote in your post, "not old, ancient" implies the elderly or infirm at any age are expendable. Please cite your source(s) proclaiming that "Quarantine isn't necessary, social distancing is debatable." That statement contradicts all scientific data to which I have been exposed.

[tomcarman]

Originally Posted by Frank Miller

I've been doing everything possible to catch it for 3 months now. What am I doing wrong. We are all going to die someday of something. If you knew you had 3 months to live, how would you feel about the government cancelling the last 3 months of your life.
What no one is discussing is the number of deaths from this quarantine. That might make it inconvenient. It's like putting in a cam because you like the lumpy idle but the car runs like crap at every other point. Let's just ignore that.

I'm sorry you only have 3 more months to live. I find it absurd that non-perishable car parts and the dollar are more important than the greater good of society. Death numbers are in other replies in this thread.

[richard crow]

the question is was there any old ford stuff there was it worth going to