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01-15-2020, 07:15 PM | #1 |
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How rare is a 39 Mercury?
Hey everyone I was working on some of my projects today and was curious how rare is a 39 Mercury ? I have a 4 door 39 and was wondering how rare they are today and how many were made in 39
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Re: How rare is a 39 Mercury?
My American Car Encyclopedia shows a total of 75,000 '39 Mercury's made. It doesn't have the numbers for each model though.
Compare it to the '39 Ford with about 28,000 4 door sedans. Sal |
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When you see them for sale, it seems like almost all are 4 doors sometimes a coupe. Did they make a 2 door sedan?
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They also made a 2 door and a convertible coupe in 1939.
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Model-99A-73 were built. More 4 doors were produced than any other 39 Mercury car. 7,970 Sedan Coupes were produced. Model 99A-70 6,560 Tudor Sedans Model 99A-70 were produced. 7,970 Convertibles ( 2 door) were produced. Seems odd that the same number of Sedan Coupes and convertibles is the same. If you want to buy a copy here's a very good buy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-V-8-Alb...gAAOSw9yZdb1ln |
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There Must not be many left now I know finding parts are a pain
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What body number is yours? Ours is #1808, the glass "bug" in ours is 10/38, and has the Ford-Mercury hub caps PLUS several early items different from later produced cars. We also have a 39 Mercury coupe which was 12/38 production (or there about) and a 1940 4 door Convertible Sedan. Yes Mercury specific parts for BOTH can be tough to impossible.
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01-16-2020, 08:29 AM | #10 |
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Not sure what number my car is the number is gone from the transmission and the motor is long gone but the papers that say the motor number if that is what you are talking about
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On the firewall near the voltage regulator
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Re: How rare is a 39 Mercury?
The '39 (and '40) Mercury Convertible Sedan was probably the rarest model...roughly only 980 were built.
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Not that I want to get off subject but what is a running 39 Mercury worth ? I have a chance to buy one running and driving and it comes with a parts car which in my opinion is pretty worn!
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I have a 40 merc 4 door needing a new home. ��
No hubcaps though.... https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/58232430
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Michael, THIS is the "SUPER Rare" Ford-Mercury hub cap......Didn't know this one existed till Treavor sent pictures....then......I just missed this "ONE" a couple of weeks ago on EPay. More "rare" than our Ford-Mercury cap. ALSO there was a post several months back on the subject of the "Rarest" hub cap IF anyone cares to go looking.
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That is a "Loaded" question. What body styles?, what sort of condition are both cars?? Do both cars have the original Mercury motors etc etc??? I can ALSO tell you that there have been a "few" 39 & 40's for sale recently (including one in the above post) and I believe in the "SWAP" section here on the barn. There was an extremely nice 40 4 door (on the EFV8 Club web page) not too long ago and it had started at around the $20K mark and gotten down to $16K and to my knowledge no takers. SO if that helps any!!!
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I know its not a 39 BUT a 40 but its a "really" sweet 40 and has lowered the price now to just under $14,000. https://www.oldcaronline.com/1940-Me...e-ID842358.htm
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I own a 39 Mercury Town Sedan. I'm not a four door guy but I have history with this car. In 1967 at age 13 using paper route money, purchased this car (with Dad's blessings) from the original owner for 150 bucks. It was a solid car, all original running,driving car. About 2 years later having lost garage space I was told I had to sell it because it was too nice to sit outside (Dad was right). Car was sold to a car collector friend of the family for $650.00. I spent the next 45 years trying to buy "my Merc" back and ultimately purchased it from his estate for $10,000.00. I have replaced tires, all brakes, wiring harness, rebuilt shocks, carb, Skip's water pumps, Bubba distributor, front and rear springs, etc, etc. The car runs and drives nicely, I have a Columbia overdrive I could install, but after all is said and done, it probably is still a $10,000 to $14,000 car. Any opinions?
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I attempted to post some pics of the Merc, a process that always has worked for me before, but upload failed due to "missing security token", got me on that one.
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I'll try again......
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Re: How rare is a 39 Mercury?
In my opinion, the market is VERY soft. Too many of us old guys dying off, and the younger crowd largely doesn't care. The models that I follow, are heading south. And, when I check on something, it's not sold (months later). The Horseless Carriage crowd is especially affected. And, of course, there are still a lot of 'dreamers' that advertise in Hemming's, using yesterday's prices. On the models that I follow, it's easy to separate the dreamers, from those that really want to sell.
A couple of my friends, both professional appraisers, have both confirmed it's their opinion of a very soft market. One car in particular that I have an interest in... a few short years ago, it was probably a 65-70K Dearborn car. The appraisers both say it MIGHT bring 45-50 today. And, the owner has been seeing offers in the 23-25 range. I guess what I'm saying, beware. (obviously, opinion) |
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Oh, I completely agree, the type of cars we like here, have an aging, decreasing population of buyers. Regarding my 39 Merc as mentioned, I have a Columbia overdrive and all the controls, about $3000.00 worth of stuff. If I do install it, will be because I want to, not because it will make it worth more because I doubt it would. Now I enjoy having and driving old cars, and if pricing continues to trend downward......... perhaps I might still be able to buy my dreamed of fourty Ford coupe!!
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how rare in aussie i have one still in lhd know of one other that was rodded and as far as i know thats it would love to hear of any others lurking out down under
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Quite a few fordor Mercury sedans still in NZ.
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I have recently bought a 39 Mercury coupe it is a right hand drive from South Africa does anyone know how many would have been made thanks Mark
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FYI: I recently saw a very nice restored 39 Mercury at a consignment shop in Minnesota. Hooked On Classics is a reputable outfit, I do not work there, just trying to find an owner for a really nice rare car. Sale is to settle an estate. The guy screwed up in my opinion. He spent way to much on a four door, then painted it red. It looks like new, but the color choice is questionable.
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This great looking 1939 Mercury Town Sedan resides in Queensland. I believe that it has since been sold after the owner pictured passed away last year. Notice that it has the Accessory 1939 Mercury Hubcaps. |
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A close-up shot of the Accessory full Stainless Steel Hubcap for the 1939 Mercury. These hubcaps are rare and desirable. |
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[QUOTE=Originals;1863037]I have recently bought a 39 Mercury coupe it is a right hand drive from South Africa does anyone know how many would have been made thanks
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Before and After shots of an original Survivor Australian 1939 Mercury Town Sedan. Judge for yourself if the big dollars spent were worth it? I don't think so. |
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The rear of the same Survivor 1939 Mercury Town Sedan, Before and After shots. Is this an improvement from the Original? |
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What the hell is wrong with some people?
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Aaaarghh!
To my eye the Mercs are a bit ungainly. Especially the Four Door. (Coupes are all right though, Mark) Mart. |
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Mart, Seeing as you like the Coupes, here is a picture of a recently imported 1939 Mercury Sedan-Coupe. |
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Sales Brochure for the 1939 Mercurys. There were only four models to chose from in its introduction year, 1939. |
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my dad had a 39 mercury 2dr sedan and I believe the engine was made in Canada only because the fuel pump went bad and he took it to the auto part store and they said the pump was heavy duty most likely from a Canadian bus is that possible?this was about 1950
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Mart, I feel that way about a 39 Ford Vs 39 Mercury. The Merc is "lower" and "sleeker" lines over the Ford. Although "both" grills are pretty, both horizontal and vertical grill bars look good to me!!!!
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I just cant hold myself back about this cars before and after photos. They have made this car much better than it ever was even when new. They will pat themselves on the back for this amazing work. But they have no understanding of history and original design, or the rarety of this survivor car (until now). Brain dead I recon. Regards, Kevin.
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1939 Mercury Town Sedan, the only body style that was sold in Australia. Here are three examples of restored Australian delivered 1939 Mercurys. While they are not common, they do turn up at Early Ford V8 Events, as you can see from these photos. |
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I know you are the "hub cap" guru and I wanted to ask you "again" about 39 Merc hub caps and in particular the "full SS" caps. IF I remember correctly you posted a picture of a full SS "Mercury 8" cap???? True?? I know there is a "FULL SS Ford-Mercury" cap as pictured BUT this arises from A picture in one of Lorin Sorensen's books that shows all the "accessory" items for the 39 Merc and it appeared to "only" show a "ribbed" SS ring that fit around the "standard" type Merc Cap?? I'll dig that photo out and post it.......your thought and or opinion. |
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I have seen very few 39 Mercs but I worked 9 years for a car collector with a 40 Merc convertible Sedan and a 39 Merc Convertible Coupe.
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Here is a comparison picture of the Regular 1939 Mercury Hubcap and the Accessory full Stainless Steel version. Note that the Accessory Hubcap has a larger circumference than the regular issue. Also, it is full Stainless Steel. A very nice hubcap to be sure. These are the revised "Mercury 8" hubcaps. |
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Complete set of Hubcaps for the 1939 Mercury. They comprise of the early issue "Ford Mercury" and the later revised "Mercury 8" varieties in both the regular issue and the full Stainless Steel Accessory Hubcaps. Unfortunately, I do not have any "Ford Mercury" Hubcaps in my personal collection. |
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Ummm, nope. Not. Uh-hun. Oops. <suppressing gag>
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This is how I like to see them, all stock with original wheels. This fine example was at Dearborn back in 2019. Notice that it doesn't have the Accessory Stainless Steel Hubcaps? They must be pretty rare? |
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Another fine 1939 Mercury Town Sedan in Australia. This one has just been imported from the USA and the Left Hand Drive steering has been retained. It is in very nice condition. |
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I had a nice original 1939 Mercury fordor sedan with original leather interior back in 1966 at the age of 20.
I had already owned a 39 std fordor sedan. The interior of the Mercury was wider, the horizontal spoke steering wheel together with the strip type speedometer gave it a more modern look. The extra 10 hp seemed to make a difference too. The windscreen was sealed with wipers attached at the base - no more flapping around the roof. The downside was the view of the car from the rear quarter - it tended to look ungainly IMHO not as sleek as the Ford from that view point. |
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hey Mercman its not a bad toy but im biased [its mine] not bad seeing i wasnt looking for a mercury at the time i came across it [JUST TO GOOD TO WALK AWAY FROM]
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Just another "rare" tidbit for the 39 Mercury.........As there are none on any of the Merc's pictured. Wind wings which are a 2 Door and 4 Door only option!!!
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AND now Trevor and "other" 39 Mercury affectionato's.......According to most published data, the 39 Mercury Convertible started production in 12/38 along with the Sedan Coupe. The "Ford-Mercury" hub cap was a reported "first three week" production Item and was done away with at the behest of a lot of "Ford" Dealers, as is reported. SO, the question is.....Looking through one of Lorin Sorensen's book I came across this picture of a 39 Convertible with Ford-Mercury hub caps???? Theories???? This would be approximately 6 weeks (at least) past the reported end to the "Ford-Mercury" hub cap
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I suspect the assembly plants were told to use up their supply of the early hub caps before using the new caps. Some plants probably used them up before others.
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A new car joins the Ford-Mercury Family. The Mercury 8 for 1939. Note that the Hubcaps say "Ford Mercury". |
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