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ericr · 12-22-2021, 07:28 PM

I think puttimg the accessory lights on the fenders might have been popular in Europe, but I've never seen a photo of a car in the States with those lights anywhere except on the cowl.

alexiskai · 12-22-2021, 07:52 PM

One got sold on BaT earlier this year. Everyone suspected it was a RHD Argentine model converted to LHD.

jb-ob · 12-22-2021, 08:06 PM

Fender Lamps where required in England and some South American countries.

A rare accessory in the US.

nkaminar · 12-22-2021, 09:16 PM

The back cover of the latest Model A News has an old ad for accessories. Fender mounted and cowl mounted parking lights are shown. Cowl lights were $7.00 and the fender lights were $4.50.

Y-Blockhead · 12-22-2021, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nkaminar

The back cover of the latest Model A News has an old ad for accessories. Fender mounted and cowl mounted parking lights are shown. Cowl lights were $7.00 and the fender lights were $4.50.

Can you imagine getting a Sportlite for $15... installed?

fundytides · 12-22-2021, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

Can you imagine getting a Sportlite for $15... installed?

Not such a great deal when you consider that $15 was probably almost a weeks wages at that time.

Incognito-A · 12-23-2021, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fundytides

Not such a great deal when you consider that $15 was probably almost a weeks wages at that time.

I think a perfectly restored Sportlite plus paying someone to install it is still probably close to a weeks wages for the average person today.

dave in australia · 12-23-2021, 03:01 AM

They were common here in Australia. As a side note, in Victoria Australia, the rear light had to be switchable from the outside of the vehicle, so there were also A's with a switch mounted on the rear mudguard (fender).

Synchro909 · 12-23-2021, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dave in australia

They were common here in Australia. As a side note, in Victoria Australia, the rear light had to be switchable from the outside of the vehicle, so there were also A's with a switch mounted on the rear mudguard (fender).

That was done so that the driver knew the light was on - that the globe wasn't blown.

ronn · 12-23-2021, 07:54 AM

ruins the look of the car.

I have a rhd phaeton that had them. took them off immediately.

foreigners have no taste! lol

Stretch Cab · 12-23-2021, 09:14 AM

The average wage in 1930 was $26.30 a week.
The spotlight would have been about half a weeks wage.
In comparison, in today's money the light would cost $249.65
Average wage today is $1,028.65 weekly.
Not sure what value all this has but the light was expensive in 1930 and probably why we don't see a lot of them today.

Bob Bidonde · 12-23-2021, 09:16 AM

There are 2 "A's" in my club that have original fender lights, and both are RH drive.

alexiskai · 12-23-2021, 09:44 AM

Here's that phaeton from BaT with the fender lights.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1929-ford-model-a-63/

duke36 · 12-23-2021, 10:48 AM

Service Bulletins and latest issue of Model A News (MARC)shows them

denniskliesen · 12-23-2021, 11:34 AM

We have a member in our club that have them on his 29 town sedan. It was built LH drive. Previous owner installed them years ago. They have fluted lens.

Y-Blockhead · 12-23-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stretch Cab

The average wage in 1930 was $26.30 a week.
The spotlight would have been about half a weeks wage.
In comparison, in today's money the light would cost $249.65
Average wage today is $1,028.65 weekly.
Not sure what value all this has but the light was expensive in 1930 and probably why we don't see a lot of them today.

And you will pay $700+ for a restored Sportlite today and have to install it yourself...

WTSHNN · 12-23-2021, 02:17 PM

Like others have said these were standard equipment for a lot of countries outside of the US in order to meet local laws.

Sharp dressed young man next to a '28 or '29 Tudor (RHD).

Ford illustration of a '30 Cabriolet that is RHD and features the fender lights.

-Tim

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McMimmcs · 12-23-2021, 02:23 PM

I personally like the look of them and will search for a pair.

CHuDWah · 12-23-2021, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stretch Cab

The average wage in 1930 was $26.30 a week.
The spotlight would have been about half a weeks wage.
In comparison, in today's money the light would cost $249.65
Average wage today is $1,028.65 weekly.
Not sure what value all this has but the light was expensive in 1930 and probably why we don't see a lot of them today.

Interestingly, that $15 light in pre-Depression 1928-29 would equal about $240 now - by 1931, it would equal about $280 now.

Ruth · 12-23-2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CHuDWah

Interestingly, that $15 light in pre-Depression 1928-29 would equal about $240 now - by 1931, it would equal about $280 now.

If you find one for $240, grab it for me, OK?

12-22-2021, 07:28 PM	#1
ericr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,542	Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? I think puttimg the accessory lights on the fenders might have been popular in Europe, but I've never seen a photo of a car in the States with those lights anywhere except on the cowl.

12-22-2021, 07:52 PM	#2
alexiskai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Mebane NC Posts: 2,354	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? One got sold on BaT earlier this year. Everyone suspected it was a RHD Argentine model converted to LHD.

12-22-2021, 08:06 PM	#3
jb-ob Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 639	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? Fender Lamps where required in England and some South American countries. A rare accessory in the US.

12-22-2021, 09:16 PM	#4
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,897	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? The back cover of the latest Model A News has an old ad for accessories. Fender mounted and cowl mounted parking lights are shown. Cowl lights were $7.00 and the fender lights were $4.50. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

12-23-2021, 03:01 AM	#8
dave in australia Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,176	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? They were common here in Australia. As a side note, in Victoria Australia, the rear light had to be switchable from the outside of the vehicle, so there were also A's with a switch mounted on the rear mudguard (fender).

12-23-2021, 07:54 AM	#10
ronn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NNNNNNNNJJJJJJJJJJ Posts: 6,787	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? ruins the look of the car. I have a rhd phaeton that had them. took them off immediately. foreigners have no taste! lol

12-23-2021, 09:14 AM	#11
Stretch Cab Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lexington, NC Posts: 695	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? The average wage in 1930 was $26.30 a week. The spotlight would have been about half a weeks wage. In comparison, in today's money the light would cost $249.65 Average wage today is $1,028.65 weekly. Not sure what value all this has but the light was expensive in 1930 and probably why we don't see a lot of them today. __________________ Let us live so that when we come to die, even the undertaker will be sorry. Mark Twain

12-23-2021, 09:16 AM	#12
Bob Bidonde Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 3,466	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? There are 2 "A's" in my club that have original fender lights, and both are RH drive. __________________ Bob Bidonde

12-23-2021, 09:44 AM	#13
alexiskai Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Mebane NC Posts: 2,354	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? Here's that phaeton from BaT with the fender lights. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1929-ford-model-a-63/

12-23-2021, 10:48 AM	#14
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? Service Bulletins and latest issue of Model A News (MARC)shows them

12-23-2021, 11:34 AM	#15
denniskliesen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: SoCal Posts: 877	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? We have a member in our club that have them on his 29 town sedan. It was built LH drive. Previous owner installed them years ago. They have fluted lens.

12-23-2021, 02:17 PM	#17
WTSHNN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,413	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? Like others have said these were standard equipment for a lot of countries outside of the US in order to meet local laws. Sharp dressed young man next to a '28 or '29 Tudor (RHD). Ford illustration of a '30 Cabriolet that is RHD and features the fender lights. -Tim s-l1000 (10).jpg img (3).jpg __________________ No one wants advice - only corroboration. -John Steinbeck

12-23-2021, 02:23 PM	#18
McMimmcs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Gratiot, Michigan Posts: 2,296	Re: Has Anyone Ever Seen a Model "A" With Cowl Lights on the Fender? I personally like the look of them and will search for a pair.