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40 Deluxe. This my new toy (not a truck this time). I couldn't resist. I may have lots of non-truck questions for those of you in the know. This is a restored car but needs a bit of TLC.
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That is a nice cruiser, Mr. Kube would be your source for info on that green gem
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panelmark, cool ride. I can't believe you have a car. what happened to the panel truck and the 1 1/2 ton. I sold my 1 1/2 ton a couple of months ago. working on my 41 panel now--slowly very slowly!!
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Congratulations. It is nice to see a Fordor for a change, as a lot of people ignore this body style. |
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Nice! Love the color.
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Here is an Australian assembled 1940 Ford Deluxe Fordor Sedan. They are few and far between in this part of the world. I am led to believe that only 1656 examples of the 1940 Ford Deluxe Fordor Sedans were sold in Australia, plus 243 1940 Ford Standard Fordor Sedans. From these numbers, you can see why so few remain. |
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Why is it spelled Fordor and not Fourdor
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That's how Ford Marketing has always referred to 4-Door Sedans - Fordor. They refer to 2-Door Sedans as Tudor....
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Wow, that's a beautiful car! And as stated the color looks perfect on it and thanks mercman for enlarging the photo. It really came alive with that.
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Love it Mark. Does this mean the T will be on the back burner for a while?
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"I hope that it is ok to post a photo of a T here. Got to love old Fords right?"
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i couldn't pick any color neater... Every model from that year can captivate me.
Don't ask about decisions I've made, rather than satisfy that itch. Good for you. You the man.
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Ok guys, I have 2 important questions.
I need to put turn signals on this car(that you can really see), what is the easiest, inexpensive way to do that? I need to put seat belts in (front and back), same question. I am guessing that there are kits for both? thank you in advance. Mark |
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hi mark . can you put double filiment bulbs in your park lights ,thats what i did.
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On my avatar 36 I used the stop lights in rear added yellow fog lights to front & used the wired through relays (6volt bosch VW ) for front turn signals. Work great.
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Very pretty car!!......I like green Fordors too!!.......Mark
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Juliano's would be a good source for seat belts. 19fordy had a good thread on installation of seatbelts in his 40 car, not sure if model is the same but might be similar 6-26-17.
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I've always been a Washington Blue with Tacoma Cream accents but I think I've got a new favorite color. I know didly squat about '40's but Drake lists this kit for front turn signals but it is only for Deluxe models so I don't know if that is what you have or not. https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=HR-13082
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Nice looking vehicle.
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Another nice photo.
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I'm not a fordor fan but in a 32 or a 40, I can tolerate them. Color also makes you attracted to models that you wouldn't normally look at twice. Yours is really a good looking car and I hope you enjoy it a lot as I enjoy my 40.
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I just put signals in my '40 coupe and seat belts. I sued the seat belts from a company called Seat Belts Plus( they are easily found on the web). Wide variety of colors and they have the installation kits too. I thought they had a great price on the belts.
I used the turn switch from e-Bay that costs about $30. It's a take off from the old Signal Stat 900. It also has the capability of E-flashers. It should come with a diagram. I used the parking lights. I bought a larger bulb for them and it worked fine. The wires for the rear go into the brake lamp circuit. Just make sure everything is grounded well. Most of these switches come with a 12 volt indicator bulb, so you will have to change that bulb if you are still 6 volts. Do that before mounting the switch. |
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Absolutely beautiful Fordor, congratulations!
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Mark that is such a beautiful car. Perhaps the tudor is more desirable to some, but one day you just may have grandkids like me and they want to go to the lake and you won't have to bend over in the middle (ouch) and let them into the back seat. Never been much of a hot rodder , not even close, so give me four doors or a wagon, even better. Did I mention how much I love that green?
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Thanks, I have strayed from the fold, but dangit we topped the Olga hill today at 56 mph in fourth. That's with the diesel tonner.... Now with a rare 5 days of beautiful cloudless skies in the forecast, we will be running the woodie with that smooooooth, quiet v8 . Nothing smoother ever.
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Here is a shot of the engine. Interesting that the car seems to have a commercial air filter setup installed.
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It's prdetty dusty in Colorado.... The PO was a smart character
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Great find! And nice that it is a Deluxe. I really like all the Art-Deco trim on the dash of the '40 Deluxe. Its like what you would see on a high-price car of that time. My Standard dash looks plain, like the low-price car it was.
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Ok so I have 2 questions for all of you.
1 How do I get the throttle knob to stay out when pulled out? Both of my 41's and this 40 it just pops right back in. Is there some kind of trick to adjusting this? I would like to replace the existing small mirror heads on the driver's and passengers doors with something a bit larger for safety reasons. Those little guys are just that, little. Thanks. |
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The throttle rod goes through a rubber piece on back side of dashboard to provide some resistance to the throttle return spring. The rubber hardens over time, shrinks, no resistance. Replacements available from all the usual vendors for just a few dollars.
No advice to offer on the mirrors. |
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The hinge pin mirrors on my '39 were round 4 inchers which were just too small IMO. I bought 5 inch round flat glass mirrors at the local (real) parts store. IIRC I had to modify the mirror arm to accept the threaded stud from the new 5 inch mirror. I think I used a nutsert. I can check tomorrow. The photo doesn't really show much detail. I'll take a close up tomorrow. The 5 inch mirrors were a big improvement but you might even want to consider 6 inch ones.
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That's hilarious to me. When I was a little kid I remember the same problem my Dad had. His solution was to take one of those old fashioned spring loaded wooden clothespins and pull out the knob and clip it behind. It worked. Thanks for reminding me of a long ago memory. How I miss my Dad.
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Great looking car! I have turn signals and seat belts installed in my Fordor. They came from Electro-Tech (turnswitch.com). It's an electronic unit that you fit on the inside of the firewall and can either use a standard lever on the steering column or, as I did, use a small two way toggle under the dash to the left of the column in one of the existing holes. I wired the unit to amber add on lights in front and add on red lights rear. i did that to insure visibility. I also wired my brake lights to go on with the add on rear lights. The lights came from Joe's Antique Auto, an excellent vendor, and are listed in his catalog as Parking/Turn Signal Lights (Non-Original). They come with 12v bulbs.
I fit seat belts front and back, drilling through the floor pan and used backing washers. Those came from Snyder's and the tan color is a good choice for the stock interior. BTW, did your car come out of Cotuit MA? There's been one just like yours on Hemmings for a while at a good price. My wife and I use the Fordor all the time and love it. Good luck with your new car and let me know if you want any other info on the turn signals and seat belts. |
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I found the hinge pin mirror size inadequate, too. I bought two convex mirror heads from Joe's Antique Auto and replaced the flat mirror heads on both sides with the convex ones. I really like the added range of view and the fact that the size is still stock.
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Air cleaner is not commercial but rather a accessory Heavy Duty oil bath that is at home both commercial as well as passenger.
Very typical for the throttle knob to slide back to the rest position. How often will you need it? Nice Car. congratulations. |
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This is a better photo of the 5 inch mirror install on the hinge pin arm that I did on my '39 p/u. The threaded stud on the 5 inch mirror wasn't long enough to extend far enough through the bracket to allow a nut to secure it. I used the insert shown. It's not pretty but functional. For a car as nice as yours you could either find a mirror with a longer stud, mill down the bracket where the stud goes through or maybe even use something like a helicoil to allow the mirror stud to thread directly into the bracket instead of the insert I used. I'm sure there are other options as well.
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At least the air cleaner didn't look like this one.
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Gotta love the old "Big Nose" certainly unique and not part of the "40" look alikes, although they are beautiful. |
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Thanks, it does get cool here at times and boy oh boy these old engines can be cold blooded. That is why I wanted the throttle to work so I could allow it to warm up when needed.
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slip a small piece of metal into the rubber bushing that the throttle knob shaft goes thru-that is what I did for a quick fix. pictures are of speedway lights used as turn signals on 40 coupe
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Very nice sedan
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