The Ford Barn

George Miller · 01-16-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by forever4

Make sure you don't get any Ford engine green paint on the white asbestos filler on the head gasket, or you will lose points in judging!

Good point maybe I could use fine line tape.

George Miller · 01-28-2016, 02:04 PM

Did a little work on the engine. To cold and wet to paint it, so I worked on clutch. Drilled the chev flywheel for a Mustang pressure plate. Using a 9" clutch plate that fits the 39 Ford transmission. Made bushing for the end of the crank so I could use the ford A Pilot bearing. Reworked the chev V8 starter to fit the Ford block with the chev flywheel.

Firing order for those that were wondering. hits on 1 then 3 skip hits on 2 skip skip hits on 4

hardtimes · 01-29-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by George Miller

Did a little work on the engine. To cold and wet to paint it, so I worked on clutch. Drilled the chev flywheel for a Mustang pressure plate. Using a 9" clutch plate that fits the 39 Ford transmission. Made bushing for the end of the crank so I could use the ford A Pilot bearing. Reworked the chev V8 starter to fit the Ford block with the chev flywheel.

Firing order for those that were wondering. hits on 1 then 3 skip hits on 2 skip skip hits on 4

Hey George,
Awesome , thanks for update . Well, firing order IS close to fords banger, eh

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Who needs a 'stinken auto supplier' store, when you are around

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Geeze, I hope that you have this ALL documented ...in case something has to be 'ordered' by next guy with this

George Miller · 02-01-2016, 06:04 PM

We are getting there.

hardtimes · 02-01-2016, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by George Miller

We are getting there.

Wonderful pictures, thanks for sharing

! How close to firing off ?
Will you have it on a stand for first test firing or in vehicle ?
Boy, did I ever learn the value of not putting my new B in the car for first start up. Have done it both ways, but getting to where it isn't as easy to remove it as it used to be

George Miller · 02-01-2016, 10:11 PM

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I'm going to put it in the hill climb car. I need to make sure every thing fits right. Then after it is runs some, will take it out and finish the hill climb car. Will be starting it before to long. Still have some things to take care of. Seems like the list of things to do gets bigger.

George Miller · 03-03-2016, 10:09 AM

Update on engine. Been working on the hill climb car (or should I say truck) with some friends.
Tried to get oil pressure on the engine. Pump did not want to work on the out side of engine. So reworked the camshaft and put a drive gear in the center from a Model A cam. Now we can use a oil pump drive from the A engine with the oil pump on the inside. Now we can move on to the next challenge.

George Miller · 04-26-2016, 01:49 PM

update.
Had the engine running for a short time. Did not run well, so set it a side and put the other engine that I have in my hill climb car. We are running out of time to get the car done. I think the problem is the cam shaft timing. It will have to wait until next winter.

Rowdy · 04-26-2016, 04:19 PM

Sorry to hear it did not run well. One thing I have been pondering; is this the same crank that Tod has in mind for his 5 bearing block? Probably should as in Tods block thread, but was wondering exactly what to do for a crank when I can afford a block in a few years. Might be time to find a couple of cheap cranks to offset the cost of such a build. Rod

George Miller · 04-26-2016, 04:34 PM

No this is a chev V8 crank. It is a 90 degree crank. I'm sure Tods will be 180 degree. With a 180 you can use the Model A cam. I think you would have to get a crank from Scat or one of the others that make special cranks. Maybe Tod will give us the answer.

rowens55 · 05-13-2016, 12:54 PM

George, any news on this engine? I was sorry to read the initial start up did not go well. Hoping to see a video soon of that bad boy runnin!
Rowen

George Miller · 05-13-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rowens55

George, any news on this engine? I was sorry to read the initial start up did not go well. Hoping to see a video soon of that bad boy runnin!
Rowen

It will be awhile before I can get back working on it. hill climb next week. Then get caught up on other jobs that got behind on.

Missouri A · 06-28-2016, 05:56 PM

Get er done!!!!!

George Miller · 06-28-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Missouri A

Get er done!!!!!

Here is where we are. It will be 3 weeks before I can try to start her.
Will post at that time how it worked out.

aonemarine · 06-28-2016, 06:29 PM

George.....out of curiosity did you happen to look at a mecruiser 470 crank to see if it was possible to fit into an A block or know anyone that has?

George Miller · 06-28-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by aonemarine

George.....out of curiosity did you happen to look at a mecruiser 470 crank to see if it was possible to fit into an A block or know anyone that has?

If it is a GM 151 engine yes I did. It will not fit. In fact I have one.

aonemarine · 06-28-2016, 07:37 PM

no totally different beast....much bigger!!

George Miller · 06-28-2016, 07:40 PM

Then no I have not tried that one.

George Miller · 07-21-2016, 08:27 PM

Well we got it running tonight. It sounds good, but have some little things to take care of.
The guys took a video of it running and are going to put it on the Ford Barn.

tbirdtbird · 07-22-2016, 12:08 AM

YaY we need a link to the video.....!!!!!

01-28-2016, 02:04 PM	#122
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine Did a little work on the engine. To cold and wet to paint it, so I worked on clutch. Drilled the chev flywheel for a Mustang pressure plate. Using a 9" clutch plate that fits the 39 Ford transmission. Made bushing for the end of the crank so I could use the ford A Pilot bearing. Reworked the chev V8 starter to fit the Ford block with the chev flywheel. Firing order for those that were wondering. hits on 1 then 3 skip hits on 2 skip skip hits on 4 Last edited by George Miller; 01-28-2016 at 04:34 PM. Reason: added to

02-01-2016, 10:11 PM	#126
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I'm going to put it in the hill climb car. I need to make sure every thing fits right. Then after it is runs some, will take it out and finish the hill climb car. Will be starting it before to long. Still have some things to take care of. Seems like the list of things to do gets bigger.

04-26-2016, 01:49 PM	#128
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine update. Had the engine running for a short time. Did not run well, so set it a side and put the other engine that I have in my hill climb car. We are running out of time to get the car done. I think the problem is the cam shaft timing. It will have to wait until next winter.

04-26-2016, 04:19 PM	#129
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine Sorry to hear it did not run well. One thing I have been pondering; is this the same crank that Tod has in mind for his 5 bearing block? Probably should as in Tods block thread, but was wondering exactly what to do for a crank when I can afford a block in a few years. Might be time to find a couple of cheap cranks to offset the cost of such a build. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

04-26-2016, 04:34 PM	#130
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine No this is a chev V8 crank. It is a 90 degree crank. I'm sure Tods will be 180 degree. With a 180 you can use the Model A cam. I think you would have to get a crank from Scat or one of the others that make special cranks. Maybe Tod will give us the answer.

05-13-2016, 12:54 PM	#131
rowens55 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: woodland Ca Posts: 333	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine George, any news on this engine? I was sorry to read the initial start up did not go well. Hoping to see a video soon of that bad boy runnin! Rowen __________________ Alive n kickin n mostly kickin!

06-28-2016, 05:56 PM	#133
Missouri A Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 37	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine Get er done!!!!!

06-28-2016, 06:29 PM	#135
aonemarine Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Delaware Posts: 252	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine George.....out of curiosity did you happen to look at a mecruiser 470 crank to see if it was possible to fit into an A block or know anyone that has?

06-28-2016, 07:37 PM	#137
aonemarine Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Delaware Posts: 252	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine no totally different beast....much bigger!!

06-28-2016, 07:40 PM	#138
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine Then no I have not tried that one.

07-21-2016, 08:27 PM	#139
George Miller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 2,975	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine Well we got it running tonight. It sounds good, but have some little things to take care of. The guys took a video of it running and are going to put it on the Ford Barn.

07-22-2016, 12:08 AM	#140
tbirdtbird BANNED Join Date: May 2012 Location: inside your RAM Posts: 3,134	Re: 5 main, chev, crankModel A engine YaY we need a link to the video.....!!!!! __________________ '31 180A