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Old 02-20-2018, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default tappets....

Anyone ever see a tappet like the LARGER one shown in these pics below ?
It's HUGE and I'm not sure why ? The large foot is great/safe for any cam use , however the bore size would have to be enlarged from stock and made pretty big. Can a tappet bore be made tooo big , as to weaken such ?


Who makes such a huge 'big footed' tappet, if you know ?
BTW ...the lifter on the left is a full inch across...for perspective.
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Old 02-20-2018, 02:11 PM   #2
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Dodge flat head "6",..should be .625",....need photos?
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Dodge had two versions, .625 and .633 dia

I have found that some will hit the sides of the cam bearings and need to have OD reduced.

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Dodge flat head "6",..should be .625",....need photos?
Yeah, .625 diameter.
Having trouble posting up all of the pictures that I tried to show. Will re-try.
Some bs about a 'security token' whatever. never have seen that before ?
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Dodge had two versions, .625 and .633 dia

I have found that some will hit the sides of the cam bearings and need to have OD reduced.

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I know what you are saying, as I've used Chrysler big foot lifters in my new B and had to bore out a little for shaft, but FOOT fit very nicely on the 3/4 cam.
These dodge that I have are the .625 variety. The shaft and overall size is even bigger diam than my Chrysler lifters.

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Old 02-21-2018, 12:28 PM   #6
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I didn't know that Chrysler and Dodge lifters were different! My used set are in the engine
with the cam in it.

The first photo is a box of new lifters that I bought at the Turlock swap last year for $2.00
each,..that was a good deal. The FOOT diameters are VERY close to 1.295"..

The 2nd photo is some of the used lifters, with different FOOT diameters that range from 1.164" too 1.188". I never noted that till I measured them just now..there just spares..
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Default Re: tappets....

I didn't know that Chrysler and Dodge lifters were different! My used set are in the engine
with the cam in it.

The first photo is a box of new lifters that I bought at the Turlock swap last year for $2.00
each,..that was a good deal. The FOOT diameters are VERY close to 1.295"..

The 2nd photo is some of the used lifters, with different FOOT diameters that range from 1.164" too 1.188". I never noted that till I measured them just now..there just spares..

Okay,..after posting a ton of photos,..NOW I can't get them them to upload!!
The new lifters came from NAPA with a part number of "213-1605"
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I must have tried OVER a dozen times to get them to load...this is upsetting!

I was also going to say the negative side of theses lifters,...there too damn HEAVY,..
you need to run more spring pressure for them to follow the cam. I always thought about
Aluminum lifters (hard Chromed) with an Iron foot or better yet a roller! BUT were dealing
with 80 year old technology..
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I didn't know that Chrysler and Dodge lifters were different! My used set are in the engine
with the cam in it.

The first photo is a box of new lifters that I bought at the Turlock swap last year for $2.00
each,..that was a good deal. The FOOT diameters are VERY close to 1.295"..

The 2nd photo is some of the used lifters, with different FOOT diameters that range from 1.164" too 1.188". I never noted that till I measured them just now..there just spares..
Hey d.j.,
If I get time, and can locate Chrysler lifter, I'll show them side/side pictured.
Hm, maybe futile effort, as can't seem to show pictures here anyway. Can't show eeemoggeees either now. What the heck happened ?
Did Ryan change things up lately ...'twisted smiley face'..ha ?
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Old 02-22-2018, 01:50 PM   #10
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This should work..
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Old 02-22-2018, 06:49 PM   #11
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I seem to recall there was a Willys overland lifter available.
It is thought to be a chilled iron tappet/lifter which would be much better running on a steel cam.

I have used the Chrysler lifter on a steel cam before and tried Tin coating and Dicronite.
Nothing has been foolproof.

FWIW, a solid A-2 lifter might work well, I just need to make about 140 for the first batch, taking a list for those interested.

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I seem to recall there was a Willys overland lifter available.
It is thought to be a chilled iron tappet/lifter which would be much better running on a steel cam.

I have used the Chrysler lifter on a steel cam before and tried Tin coating and Dicronite.
Nothing has been foolproof.

FWIW, a solid A-2 lifter might work well, I just need to make about 140 for the first batch, taking a list for those interested.

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Good for you!.....make them "light",...I think that's a big deal..less spring
pressure..
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:07 PM   #13
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Default Re: tappets....

Little has been said about worn lifter bores and reconditioning them.
Most people when rebuilding an engine just buy new lifters and stick them in. Few even hone the lifter bores to clean the scale off. I have yet to see an original A/B block that the lifter bores weren't worn out.
I have had good success using the Chrysler 6 lifters by machining the OD of the face and shortening them to fit the B block. The lifter bores are reamed oversize.

The website is still fucked up so pictures are not an option.
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