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darrell · 12-30-2021, 06:18 PM

i didnt read it correct.if gas is pouring out the carb is the trouble.

KULTULZ · 12-30-2021, 07:10 PM

You're OK.

It sounds to me that as long as the car has sat, the fuel system is filthy.

fordor41 · 12-30-2021, 11:47 PM

why not disconnect the fuel line before the pump(cap it off) and empty the carb. then dribble some fuel in the top of the carb. If you have spark it should start, but briefly. If it starts then rebuild the carb as now you know it's a carb problem. water, moisture is another thing

cohammer60 · 01-02-2022, 12:13 AM

I believe I found my issue, never seen a timing chain so loose you can almost flip it off with a screwdriver.

Crankster · 01-02-2022, 12:30 AM

That's definitely "a" issue. It might be interesting to see just how far off (late, or retarded) the valve timing might be. N.b., this is different than ignition timing.

A quick & dirty method is to roll the engine over by hand slowly clockwise 2 complete revolutions and stop with the pointer on the "0" TDC mark. With the distributor cap removed, now slowly turn the engine counter-clockwise while observing the distributor rotor. As soon as the rotor starts to move, stop turning, and note how much "slop" there is measured in crankshaft degrees.

cohammer60 · 01-02-2022, 10:35 AM

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I placed it on TDC and it had jumped a good bit . My grandson and I were trying to start it and it tried to start then made a noise and this was results .

KULTULZ · 01-02-2022, 10:46 AM

... damn ...

That explains the no start.

The fuel pump is driven off the camshaft and it is still overfilling the carb fuel bowl with the stretched chain. I think she still wants to live ...

Forgot to ask, does the cam gear have nylon teeth?

cohammer60 · 01-02-2022, 11:15 AM

Yes it has nylon and am changing both gear .

KULTULZ · 01-02-2022, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cohammer60

Yes it has nylon and am changing both gear .

Try and buy a timing set from CLOYES that has a steel cam drive gear. That nylon gear gave FORD a lot of headaches.

12-30-2021, 06:18 PM	#21
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 1966 289 no start i didnt read it correct.if gas is pouring out the carb is the trouble.

12-30-2021, 07:10 PM	#22
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,466	Re: 1966 289 no start You're OK. It sounds to me that as long as the car has sat, the fuel system is filthy. __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

12-30-2021, 11:47 PM	#23
fordor41 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: elmira,ny Posts: 1,516	Re: 1966 289 no start why not disconnect the fuel line before the pump(cap it off) and empty the carb. then dribble some fuel in the top of the carb. If you have spark it should start, but briefly. If it starts then rebuild the carb as now you know it's a carb problem. water, moisture is another thing

01-02-2022, 12:30 AM	#25
Crankster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 563	Re: 1966 289 no start That's definitely "a" issue. It might be interesting to see just how far off (late, or retarded) the valve timing might be. N.b., this is different than ignition timing. A quick & dirty method is to roll the engine over by hand slowly clockwise 2 complete revolutions and stop with the pointer on the "0" TDC mark. With the distributor cap removed, now slowly turn the engine counter-clockwise while observing the distributor rotor. As soon as the rotor starts to move, stop turning, and note how much "slop" there is measured in crankshaft degrees.

01-02-2022, 10:46 AM	#27
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,466	Re: 1966 289 no start ... damn ... That explains the no start. The fuel pump is driven off the camshaft and it is still overfilling the carb fuel bowl with the stretched chain. I think she still wants to live ... Forgot to ask, does the cam gear have nylon teeth? __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

01-02-2022, 11:15 AM	#28
cohammer60 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Silver Creek GA Posts: 100	Re: 1966 289 no start Yes it has nylon and am changing both gear .

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