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12-17-2021, 03:58 PM | #61 |
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Re: Early Production '57 Ford Data Plate Questions
Here is another possible source of information -
https://detroitpubliclibrary.org/res...ory-collection Another - https://www.thehenryford.org/collections-and-research/
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Re: Early Production '57 Ford Data Plate Questions
Here is the most complete information I have found to date -
https://ctcc9.blogspot.com/2010/08/d...revisited.html It is BIRD oriented but begins to explain some of the mystery.
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I have a bunch of info I need to process once I get up off my lazy a$$ ...
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- http://57fordsforever.com/smf/index.php?topic=5454.0 *********************************** EDIT - POST #16 Within The Above Thread - Quote:
dmsfrr trumped me. I THANK HIM for pointing this out to me ... Still working on early de-code. Each ASSY PLANT issued its own early plate. Fascinating. Last edited by KULTULZ; 01-02-2022 at 01:30 PM. Reason: CRS |
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"Still working on early de-code." Here's a link to a website I don't recall having seen before, for both '55 & '56 full sized cars. http://1955-ford.com/index.html http://1955-ford.com/1955-ford-data-plate-codes.html It seems to have more detail about exterior and interior colors than I was expecting. There are also a few links to color scheme layout descriptions (some of which may have already been included in this thread) but few photos. This first one looks just like a Crown Vic. Assn. document I've seen before. http://1955-ford.com/img-55-ford-dat...te-decoder.pdf This one also appears to be another CVA document. http://1955-ford.com/img-55-ford-data-plate-codes/54-55-56-ford-us-and-can-paint-colors.pdf . Last edited by dmsfrr; 01-02-2022 at 08:43 PM. |
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THANX for the additional info. This particular one - http://1955-ford.com/img-55-ford-dat...te-decoder.pdf - has more info than I realized as it was viewed earlier but the 2nd page was unreadable and I didn't go past the 2nd page. It turns out there are nineteen pages with a lot of additional info.
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Re: Early Production '57 Ford Data Plate Questions
Here is one problem ...
Posted Here is a 1953 PRODUCT LETTER ... - https://www.1954ford.com/page3.php - ... that was modified. The poster inserted a photo of his car exactly where (7) Production Code Information was posted -
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Re: Early Production '57 Ford Data Plate Questions
Early 57 data plate info - Management Service Letter M-144 - Oct. 8, 1956
Late 57 data plate info (starting April 1957) - Management Service Letter M-155, May 3, 1957 You're welcome...
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!!! DAMN !!! I don't know how you did it but it is greatly appreciated. KULTULZ standing in a bread line and asks for toast - M-144 refers to M-144A for additional info. Is it possible you came across that copy also? The differences between the early PATENT PLATE PRODUCTION CODE(S) INFO among ASSEMBLY PLANTS is not answered.
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As for the production codes on the pre-April '57 data plates and differences between assembly plants, about the only way to answer that is to actively collect/examine plates and corresponding car information. The date coding at the beginning of the string should be the same for all plants. The use of sales district coding (used on T-birds in late '55-'57, which were all assembled at Dearborn Assembly Plant (i.e. the "Rouge") except for cars in 'knock-down' condition for final assembly overseas or in Mexico, for instance) is known - in fact, the MSL issued for 1956 data plate decoding has a separate listing for the district codes used on the T-bird data plates. What's murky is the production number, which the MSLs and PSLs state state was the number of units built in one day at an assembly plant. This varied in use, such as to consecutively tally the number of T-birds sold within a sales district (this was discovered by people collecting this info for 'Birds), and the letter code found at the end of the production code string on '57 plates (A,B,C,P, etc.) indicating type of order. T-bird researchers over the years have narrowed the letter codes at the end of the string down based on study of invoices retained by CTCI to identify special order, dealer-specified order, dealer- or district- group order, unit scheduled for regular production or other, with consensus that the 'P' code - which shows up the most in the collected information - more than likely indicates a regular production order. Again, this was used at the Dearborn Assembly Plant. These were used prior to the axle-trans codes being added in April '57, as noted in MSL M-155. Collection of information from plates of cars built at the other final assembly plants is needed. I would have to believe that the International Ford Retractable Club (IFRC) has a leg up on this, but I don't recall if Skyliner production was limited to specific plants. And I want to believe that IFRC is just as stingy as the collectors and keepers of data plate information with the Crown Victoria Association (CVA), which I've noted and commented on in a previous post on this topic. M-144A? I have it. M-144A gives info on manufacturer and date codes for parts and assemblies. No info on data plate-related items. Be thankful I'm feeling generous today - copy of M-144A is attached.
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