The Ford Barn

V8COOPMAN · 07-01-2018, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ardun

Love my 53 tudor. Started as an original six when I got it. No idea of it’s salability or value. Might be hard to sell for anything near what I got in it.

True or false...…….That is possibly the ONLY Ardun-spun air conditioning compressor on the planet? DD

Ardun · 07-01-2018, 09:18 AM

Good question, but it sure helps with the summer heat. Another question, any other ‘53s with an ARDUN? Would love to see one.

1948F-1Pickup · 07-01-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

"some rust"? Most '53 Minnesota cars looked like this by about 1957. I wonder how many times the rocker panels, fenders and floors have been repaired.

^ Yup.
Was just in the area last week and saw 10 year old cars with serious
rust issues.

ford38v8 · 07-01-2018, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ardun

Love my 53 Tudor. Started as an original six when I got it. No idea of it’s salability or value. Might be hard to sell for anything near what I got in it.

Said he with a coy lowering of his eyes, and just a hint of curl to his lip.

barnstuf · 07-01-2018, 10:44 AM

In 1953 I traded a 1947 with 197,000 miles for a 1953 Mainline Tudor V8 with overdrive. I put just over 200,000 miles on it with no major repairs, no breakdowns and in 1959 traded it towards a 1959 Country Sedan which I also ran just over 200,000 miles. In the 1950's in northern states the use of salt for winter snowy roads began. The cars in use then were not built to handle salt and the salty road sand found its way into rocker panels, openings around the headlights, etc. It was a learning experience for the car manufacturers to do away with those pockets where a salt/sand mix would gather.

Ardun · 07-01-2018, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

Said he with a coy lowering of his eyes, and just a hint of curl to his lip.

��btw, i am from the Bay Area too.. SF & Sj. Now Reno. I go back to Champion Speed Shop days. So fun!

Ross F-1 · 07-01-2018, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by barnstuf

... It was a learning experience for the car manufacturers to do away with those pockets where a salt/sand mix would gather.

I don't think they are really trying even today. Just back from the Chicago area, quite a shock after living in the desert for 40 years... but that's why I left there.

ford38v8 · 07-01-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ardun

��btw, i am from the Bay Area too.. SF & Sj. Now Reno. I go back to Champion Speed Shop days. So fun!

So you probably knew Doug King in Castro Valley?

Ardun · 07-01-2018, 04:26 PM

Unfortunately, no as I was from other side of Bay. Quite an ARDUN builder.

ford38v8 · 07-01-2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ardun

Unfortunately, no as I was from other side of Bay. Quite an ARDUN builder.

He was that!

Alaska Jim · 07-01-2018, 06:28 PM

Ardun, very nice '53 you have . I have one of Doug King's Main girdle kits for the blown flathead that will go in my '29 roadster project. I wish I had been able to meet him and a lot of others from that area. there is such a wealth of knowledge there.

ford38v8 · 07-01-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Alaska Jim

Ardun, very nice '53 you have . I have one of Doug King's Main girdle kits for the blown flathead that will go in my '29 roadster project. I wish I had been able to meet him and a lot of others from that area. there is such a wealth of knowledge there.

Jim, you likely have this PDF, and have done the conversion, I post this so you'll recognize Doug's letterhead (without his name per his request). It is posted in my Regional Groups website now. I was fortunate to have lived just a couple miles from Doug, who recruited me to join the EFV8 club years ago!

Ardun · 07-02-2018, 08:42 AM

Thank you. Ya, Doug was a quite the ARDUN guy. Your project sounds nice. Wish I had known of your project a month ago as I was in Palmer and would have love to see it. Maybe next year.

Please keep us posted of your progress. Having built two Arduns, I learned a bit and would be pleased to share although I never built a supercharged one. I did use Doug’s full flow filter modification.

One noteworthy thing is my heads are sequentially numbered 167 and 168. They are first generation heads with water outlets in front and back.

Mine is a very good running engine but not a monster powerhouse as it is in a “53 Ford. Gets a of attention.

Ardun · 07-02-2018, 08:50 AM

It works! I used it with no problems. Thanks for posting it.

Great you lived so close to Doug. A weath of Ardun knowledge.
Thank you. Ya, Doug was a quite the ARDUN guy. I drive my car often

19Fordy · 07-02-2018, 09:16 AM

ARDUN: BEE-U-T-FULL car.

Ardun · 07-02-2018, 09:34 AM

😎 Thanks

Alaska Jim · 07-02-2018, 03:07 PM

Ardun, My brother is building a '29 Ford roadster P/u with a Flathead with an original set of Ardun heads. he got them on an old flathead alcohol drag race eng. . he plans on running a blower on it also. My '29 roadster will be flathead powered, with a 4-71 blower, that is why I bought Doug King's girdle set up. my brother is a machinist, and is going to copy my girdle since he can not buy one from Doug any more. He bought the main caps several years ago , but did not buy the center girdle. both of these engines are long term projects and keep getting put on the back burner, because other stuff keeps popping up. we have made our own oiling system modifications, and have machined, and welded the block to route the oil out of the pump differently than stock and the block is machined to accept an adapter ( home made ) that bolts onto the block along the rear of the block next to the oil pan rail. it then takes a small GM spin on filter. this modifications make it a true full flow, 100% filtered oiling system. My brother can explain it better than I can. He goes by Flatrod here on the ford Barn and over on the Hamb. he does not post much but does read the forums. you can direct any questions you may have about the modification to him , or I can pass them along. next time you are in Alaska, let us know. I live in Palmer, and my brother lives in Anchorage.

Ardun · 07-02-2018, 06:11 PM

Sounds great. Thanks for the info. Get ‘em done and enjoy. Will be in Palmer next year. I come up to Anchorage to play the Spenard Jazz Fest and to fish every year. Picture is at 49th. State Brewery in Alaska. I am playing Jazz Harmonica.

My other two cats are a 34 Ford Pheaton and a 33 Ford Coupe. Both are nice street rods.

Will look you up.

Tom

Paul Bennett · 07-02-2018, 07:32 PM

If a car has commute value it's worth $1500. If it has 'vintage' value add some more. If it has sex-appeal add more. If mechanicals/wiring are like new add more.

I'd place that car at $1800. Maybel less upon inspection.

07-01-2018, 09:18 AM	#22
Ardun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Posts: 171	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good Good question, but it sure helps with the summer heat. Another question, any other ‘53s with an ARDUN? Would love to see one.

07-01-2018, 10:44 AM	#25
barnstuf Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod MA Posts: 2,840	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good In 1953 I traded a 1947 with 197,000 miles for a 1953 Mainline Tudor V8 with overdrive. I put just over 200,000 miles on it with no major repairs, no breakdowns and in 1959 traded it towards a 1959 Country Sedan which I also ran just over 200,000 miles. In the 1950's in northern states the use of salt for winter snowy roads began. The cars in use then were not built to handle salt and the salty road sand found its way into rocker panels, openings around the headlights, etc. It was a learning experience for the car manufacturers to do away with those pockets where a salt/sand mix would gather.

07-01-2018, 04:26 PM	#29
Ardun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Posts: 171	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good Unfortunately, no as I was from other side of Bay. Quite an ARDUN builder.

07-01-2018, 06:28 PM	#31
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good Ardun, very nice '53 you have . I have one of Doug King's Main girdle kits for the blown flathead that will go in my '29 roadster project. I wish I had been able to meet him and a lot of others from that area. there is such a wealth of knowledge there.

07-02-2018, 08:42 AM	#33
Ardun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Posts: 171	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good Thank you. Ya, Doug was a quite the ARDUN guy. Your project sounds nice. Wish I had known of your project a month ago as I was in Palmer and would have love to see it. Maybe next year. Please keep us posted of your progress. Having built two Arduns, I learned a bit and would be pleased to share although I never built a supercharged one. I did use Doug’s full flow filter modification. One noteworthy thing is my heads are sequentially numbered 167 and 168. They are first generation heads with water outlets in front and back. Mine is a very good running engine but not a monster powerhouse as it is in a “53 Ford. Gets a of attention. Last edited by Ardun; 07-02-2018 at 09:35 AM.

07-02-2018, 08:50 AM	#34
Ardun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Posts: 171	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good It works! I used it with no problems. Thanks for posting it. Great you lived so close to Doug. A weath of Ardun knowledge. Thank you. Ya, Doug was a quite the ARDUN guy. I drive my car often

07-02-2018, 09:16 AM	#35
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,932	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good ARDUN: BEE-U-T-FULL car.

07-02-2018, 09:34 AM	#36
Ardun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Reno Posts: 171	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good 😎 Thanks

07-02-2018, 03:07 PM	#37
Alaska Jim Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Palmer, Alaska Posts: 1,575	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good Ardun, My brother is building a '29 Ford roadster P/u with a Flathead with an original set of Ardun heads. he got them on an old flathead alcohol drag race eng. . he plans on running a blower on it also. My '29 roadster will be flathead powered, with a 4-71 blower, that is why I bought Doug King's girdle set up. my brother is a machinist, and is going to copy my girdle since he can not buy one from Doug any more. He bought the main caps several years ago , but did not buy the center girdle. both of these engines are long term projects and keep getting put on the back burner, because other stuff keeps popping up. we have made our own oiling system modifications, and have machined, and welded the block to route the oil out of the pump differently than stock and the block is machined to accept an adapter ( home made ) that bolts onto the block along the rear of the block next to the oil pan rail. it then takes a small GM spin on filter. this modifications make it a true full flow, 100% filtered oiling system. My brother can explain it better than I can. He goes by Flatrod here on the ford Barn and over on the Hamb. he does not post much but does read the forums. you can direct any questions you may have about the modification to him , or I can pass them along. next time you are in Alaska, let us know. I live in Palmer, and my brother lives in Anchorage.

07-02-2018, 07:32 PM	#39
Paul Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 628	Re: 1953 Ford why don't sell very good If a car has commute value it's worth $1500. If it has 'vintage' value add some more. If it has sex-appeal add more. If mechanicals/wiring are like new add more. I'd place that car at $1800. Maybel less upon inspection.