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Old 02-05-2012, 02:00 PM   #1
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Default 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

I have a 1960 f100 with a 292 yblock, the original trans was fluid cooled with a tank on the side with lines that go to the block of the motor. Well the original motor was trash so I scored another 292 with I think to be an air cooled ford o matic trans. Im not sure what trans to use.
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Old 02-05-2012, 02:32 PM   #2
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

If the truck will be used just to putz around in, I would use the passenger trans, or convert to a C4.
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:50 PM   #3
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

Your water cooled Fordo can be re built useing a FMX case and other small parts. You would end up with a full 3 speed from a dead stop. Other than that it would be original and no one would no any different. There are a couple of articles on that subjuet at Y Blocks forever i think.
I have done it on my 54 Sunliner and not sorry at all. Didn.t cost any more than a regular rebuild. I used my stock front pump so didn't need to mess with the torque converter.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:44 AM   #4
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Im not looking to rebuild it or anything. I justt need somethhing to put around to and from work and be somewhat dependable.
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Old 02-07-2012, 03:30 AM   #5
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

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can you post some pictures of both transmissions?
does the bellhousing on first one look like this?
true air cooled trans was 2 speed fordomatic and
never put behind a V8.
it has air scoop on bellhousing.

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Old 02-07-2012, 02:57 PM   #6
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Neither one have a scoop on the bell housing but the one without the cooler has a screen on the back of the bellhousing. The ford o matic in my 56 sedan is air cooled with a scoop.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:19 PM   #7
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can you do pictures?
this site has the best kind of upload.
you upload straight from computer.
no photo bucket or anything.

my trans has screen like diagram.
so i guess it's figure out what the other
one of yours is.
i think pictures are the way to go.
here's pic of nice 292 AFTER you solve trans puzzle.

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Old 02-07-2012, 04:55 PM   #8
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So if it has the screen then what trans is that one? Yes I can post pics of the two trans and my y block
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:34 PM   #9
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i'm pretty sure mine's 'Cruisomatic'.
true 3 speed.
to be honest i'm waiting until i get it all cleaned off
to totally nail what it is.
we can make progress with your original tranny though.
cast iron bellhousing?
cast iron main case?
cast iron tailshaft?
TIP: better just pic's of original trans only first.
from all 4 sides.
trust me, it gets complicated.

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:42 PM   #10
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Well I will post pics of both trans in a couple hours. I want to put this truck back together so I can drive it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:19 PM   #11
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

All FOMs in cars from 51 until mid-56 were air-cooled and were actually 3 speed,although many people think they were 2 speeds because they start off in second in drive.L locks it in first and floorboarding the throttle in drive below about 30 MPH drops it into first.The truck FOMs starting,I think in 54,had an external cooler.After March of 56,all FOMS were water-cooled.
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Old 02-07-2012, 11:36 PM   #12
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

paul
his username is a car but he's talking about F100.
here's diagram of truck cooler.
my V8 one is mounted FLAT and back further.
those are 1/2" steel water lines, want a set?
same passenger side though.

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well, I'LL post pic's of MY cruisomatic when it's cleaned off.
hmmph!

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Old 02-09-2012, 02:18 AM   #14
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Well I didnt get to the pics today but hopefully in the morning. Im not sure how to tell the physical difference between the cruis o matic and FOM. I guess I will just wait to post pics and go from there. All I have to say is I need to get this motor and trans in this truck asap!
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i'll yield to that.forget the pic's.
don't want any problems that it cause for you on my head.
i have time to take good pic's.
to help other guys when this comes up again.

i'd say use the trans that came out.
then fool around with 'new' trans when
the pressure's off.
so eyeball it and make sure everything matches
with replacement 292.
i'd bypass balance flexplate, etc. issues for now and
just put it together.

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Old 02-09-2012, 11:14 AM   #16
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Here are pics of the original trans
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:15 AM   #17
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I will have to try again later. It wouldnt load the pics
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

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true air cooled trans was 2 speed fordomatic and
never put behind a V8.
These two statements are incorrect. Air cooled Fordomatics were 3 speed. It is a misconception that the air cooled FOM is 2 speed because it normally starts off in second gear unless you accelerate hard from stand still and kicks into first (or you manually put it in first). And yes they were used in V-8 powered cars and trucks.

As far as your picture is concerned, I don't believe that is even a Y-Block bell housing because it states 1964-72 Ford stopped making Y-Blocks in 1964. It's either for a SBF or a FE.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:46 AM   #19
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Could somebody post the pics for me? If so pm me. Thank you
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Default Re: 1960 f100 with 292 yblock which auto trans to use?

Was your original trans in good condition when your engine gave up? What is the condition of the new transmission? Do you have any idea what year your new engine/transmission is and if it came out of a car or truck?
Do both Bellhousings have the "ears" for the truck engine mounts (car bells don't have these).

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