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Nlbloch · 04-24-2019, 08:59 PM

At the end of Les Andrew's book (pages 3-4 and 3-5) there are some very useful lubrication diagrams with letters and numbers. However, I can't find a legend for the meaning of the letters or numbers -- which I would find helpful. Any ideas? Alternatively, any other good suggestions for Spring lubrication guides and overall maintenance checklists?

Separately, one of the guides I am using suggests to "remove the bell housing cover" and lubriacate. I'm not sure what the "bell housing" is and where to locate it.

Brian SATX · 04-24-2019, 09:20 PM

For the bell housing one, remove the floor boards. You will see a large item that looks like a bell, and it will have a vented cover held on by two screws. Loosen the screws and remove the plate. Look inside and you will see a zerk fitting. Grease it.

springerpete · 04-25-2019, 05:33 AM

Look on pages 3-2 and 3-3.

Werner · 04-25-2019, 06:55 AM

Therefore, I think do you mean.

chap52 · 04-25-2019, 10:37 AM

Yep, that's it. Chap

Chris Haynes · 04-25-2019, 01:57 PM

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I have seen later V8's with a grease cup on the cover. You just need to give it a turn to push fresh grease into the throw out bearing. Could this be adapted to a model A?

Werner · 04-25-2019, 03:45 PM

Hallo Chris,

I think, you mean this one? If, yes, that is an option. But you must use a heat-resitant grease!

Nlbloch · 04-25-2019, 04:14 PM

Thanks, everyone, for your replies. That has to be the most difficult zerk fitting. My 1930 coupe has a rubber floor mat which has been riveted into place at the top. So to access the opening, I must lift the floormat half way, raise the gear shift and parking brake rubber floor gaskets, and stick my hand deep inside. Surely there must be a better way -- but I couldn't find one.

Now that this is done, I must ask: what is being lubricated in the bell housing?

Brian SATX · 04-26-2019, 06:38 AM

Throw out bearing is what is in the bell housing.

100IH · 04-26-2019, 02:07 PM

The actual bearing is a ball bearing and it will take the the grease. The bearing is lightly pressed on to the sliding carrier for the T/O bearing. Some of the grease will go to the inside of the T/O carrier where it slides in and out to actuate the clutch disengagement. The carrier is sliding on the snout that is on the front bearing carrier. Note: many of the newer replacement T/O bearings do not have the channels for the grease, permanent lube for the bearing and no lube, I think, for the sliding of the carrier on the bearing retainer snout.

katy · 04-27-2019, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Haynes

I have seen later V8's with a grease cup on the cover. You just need to give it a turn to push fresh grease into the throw out bearing. Could this be adapted to a model A?

IIRC, those V8s had a flexible hose between the fitting for the grease cup and the fitting for the release (throwout) bearing.

26 Coupe · 04-28-2019, 07:50 AM

Is there any danger of putting too much grease in the throwout bearing and getting some on the clutch surfaces?

04-24-2019, 08:59 PM	#1
Nlbloch Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 70	Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book At the end of Les Andrew's book (pages 3-4 and 3-5) there are some very useful lubrication diagrams with letters and numbers. However, I can't find a legend for the meaning of the letters or numbers -- which I would find helpful. Any ideas? Alternatively, any other good suggestions for Spring lubrication guides and overall maintenance checklists? Separately, one of the guides I am using suggests to "remove the bell housing cover" and lubriacate. I'm not sure what the "bell housing" is and where to locate it.

04-24-2019, 09:20 PM	#2
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book For the bell housing one, remove the floor boards. You will see a large item that looks like a bell, and it will have a vented cover held on by two screws. Loosen the screws and remove the plate. Look inside and you will see a zerk fitting. Grease it. __________________ Brian SATX Last edited by Brian SATX; 04-25-2019 at 06:43 AM.

04-25-2019, 05:33 AM	#3
springerpete Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Central Maine Posts: 644	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book Look on pages 3-2 and 3-3.

04-25-2019, 10:37 AM	#5
chap52 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Marana Arizona Posts: 1,776	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book Yep, that's it. Chap

04-25-2019, 01:57 PM	#6
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,832	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have seen later V8's with a grease cup on the cover. You just need to give it a turn to push fresh grease into the throw out bearing. Could this be adapted to a model A? __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

04-25-2019, 04:14 PM	#8
Nlbloch Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 70	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book Thanks, everyone, for your replies. That has to be the most difficult zerk fitting. My 1930 coupe has a rubber floor mat which has been riveted into place at the top. So to access the opening, I must lift the floormat half way, raise the gear shift and parking brake rubber floor gaskets, and stick my hand deep inside. Surely there must be a better way -- but I couldn't find one. Now that this is done, I must ask: what is being lubricated in the bell housing?

04-26-2019, 06:38 AM	#9
Brian SATX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 821	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book Throw out bearing is what is in the bell housing. __________________ Brian SATX

04-26-2019, 02:07 PM	#10
100IH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SW Idaho Posts: 970	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book The actual bearing is a ball bearing and it will take the the grease. The bearing is lightly pressed on to the sliding carrier for the T/O bearing. Some of the grease will go to the inside of the T/O carrier where it slides in and out to actuate the clutch disengagement. The carrier is sliding on the snout that is on the front bearing carrier. Note: many of the newer replacement T/O bearings do not have the channels for the grease, permanent lube for the bearing and no lube, I think, for the sliding of the carrier on the bearing retainer snout.

04-28-2019, 07:50 AM	#12
26 Coupe Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7	Re: Lubrication chart in Les Andrews' book Is there any danger of putting too much grease in the throwout bearing and getting some on the clutch surfaces?