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Gary in Mozarks · 06-01-2010, 09:09 PM

what sort of modifications to the K frame is necessary to put a t-5 in a 39 ford frame?

Straightpipes · 06-01-2010, 09:25 PM

Ask JETMEK on here. He just did one.

DirtyDan · 06-01-2010, 09:39 PM

I just installed a 8BA w/ a T-5 in my 36 using a Dwight Bond adapter. I am also running a drop axle w/ split wishbones. I used a Pete and Jake's wishbone plate that I modified and I am running a TH350 style trans mount. I had to remove the entire rivited plate from the center section of the X-member to fit. The x-member is now braced by the wishbone split plate. I am doing mine w/ the body on chassis, so I just used the plasma cutter to remove, but if you have a bare frame you just drill out the rivets.
I am using a T-5 from an S-10 which puts the shifter placement about 6" closer to the seat than the original 3spd.

296 V8 · 06-01-2010, 10:07 PM

If you want to stay unsplit (sorta)
This is what im doing (8ba - 35 three window)
Model A yoke in the 35 wishbone to clear the T5 case. Trans mount lands right in the center of the tube (no holes yet)
I will be bolting a flat plate w flush bolts to the stock rubber trans mount to get the mounting bolts outside the ball.
1 ½” x 3" x 188 tube w nuts welded to a ball cap - inset and welded into the tube.
Obviously the X is cut more than necessary (previous auto trans install)and I had to heat and bend the spring perches back out a bit (easy)

55 dude · 06-01-2010, 10:14 PM

great pic's guys!

Flat Ernie · 06-01-2010, 10:27 PM

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Straightpipes · 06-01-2010, 11:01 PM

296 V8, I just set here trying to squash that pissant bug crawlin around on my screen............

X38 · 06-02-2010, 12:16 AM

That looks pretty nice Dirty Dan, but I'd still try to get something across the topside of the X member to tie it together.

DirtyDan · 06-02-2010, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X38

That looks pretty nice Dirty Dan, but I'd still try to get something across the topside of the X member to tie it together.

I agree... I'm planning on putting something behind the transmission on top of the frame. The transmission sits up pretty high, so the brace will need to be behind the transmission output shaft.

Gary in Mozarks · 06-02-2010, 07:32 AM

What are you guys using for rear springs and rear end? I assume it will be something with longatudinal leaf springs? Ive heard early bronco but I don;t know what year.

John T · 06-02-2010, 07:44 AM

What type of ends are you using on the split wishbone and what are they mounted to?

John T · 06-02-2010, 07:45 AM

Above question is for Dirty Dan.

Pete Fl/Wi · 06-02-2010, 07:54 AM

Thanks for the pictures guys. I am planning on doing the same t-5 swap on my 39 pickup. This is a very helpful thread.
Pete

flatjack9 · 06-02-2010, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in Mozarks

What are you guys using for rear springs and rear end? I assume it will be something with longatudinal leaf springs? Ive heard early bronco but I don;t know what year.

Use the rear from the first generation Broncos(don't remember the exact years). Fits perfectly in my 39 and has 5 1/2" bolt pattern. I used a Chassis Engineering kit to install it. I installed the aluminum 3 speed OD from a mid 80's Ford pickup with the 300 cu. in. 6. Only had to make minor modifications to the center section of the frame. Bolts up to 49 - 53 bellhousing. With a 3.70 rear axle, I turn 2500 rpm at 73 mph. Also the shifter is almost exactly in the stock location. With my 39 shifter grafted on, no one knows the difference.

Roger/Sacramento · 06-02-2010, 01:44 PM

1941 Pickup

DirtyDan · 06-02-2010, 02:01 PM

I am using an early bronco rear end as well. The years range from 1966-1977. I think 72 and later use a big bearing if you can find them. Most all of them have 3:55 gears as well. I am using the Chassis Engineering parallel spring kit to mount the rear.

For the front I am using the supplied ends from the Pete and Jakes kit. Just poly bushings. You basically cut the wish bone and weld a bung in each open end then thread the poly bushing hardware into that and it all bolts up to the plate mounted to the bottom of the frame rails. I modified mine to be larger and incorporate a trans mount.
The car is much further along than in these pics, but I have these uploaded already.

X38 · 06-02-2010, 07:49 PM

Btw Dan, I really like the gold on the engine and wheels, goes well with the body colour.

Roger/Sacramento · 06-02-2010, 08:14 PM

All buttoned up

Gary in Mozarks · 06-02-2010, 08:17 PM

do you have any pictures of the attach points on the frame for the rear springs?

DirtyDan · 06-02-2010, 09:01 PM

Roger, is that top plate something you made or purchased? I really like the looks of it. Seems like that would really stiffen up the x-member.

06-01-2010, 09:09 PM	#1
Gary in Mozarks Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vienna Mo Posts: 232	T-5 in a 39 question what sort of modifications to the K frame is necessary to put a t-5 in a 39 ford frame?

06-01-2010, 09:25 PM	#2
Straightpipes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ballston Spa, NY Posts: 789	Re: T-5 in a 39 question Ask JETMEK on here. He just did one.

06-01-2010, 09:39 PM	#3
DirtyDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 146	Re: T-5 in a 39 question I just installed a 8BA w/ a T-5 in my 36 using a Dwight Bond adapter. I am also running a drop axle w/ split wishbones. I used a Pete and Jake's wishbone plate that I modified and I am running a TH350 style trans mount. I had to remove the entire rivited plate from the center section of the X-member to fit. The x-member is now braced by the wishbone split plate. I am doing mine w/ the body on chassis, so I just used the plasma cutter to remove, but if you have a bare frame you just drill out the rivets. I am using a T-5 from an S-10 which puts the shifter placement about 6" closer to the seat than the original 3spd.

06-01-2010, 10:07 PM	#4
296 V8 BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: nor~cal Posts: 455	Re: T-5 in a 39 question If you want to stay unsplit (sorta) This is what im doing (8ba - 35 three window) Model A yoke in the 35 wishbone to clear the T5 case. Trans mount lands right in the center of the tube (no holes yet) I will be bolting a flat plate w flush bolts to the stock rubber trans mount to get the mounting bolts outside the ball. 1 ½” x 3" x 188 tube w nuts welded to a ball cap - inset and welded into the tube. Obviously the X is cut more than necessary (previous auto trans install)and I had to heat and bend the spring perches back out a bit (easy)

06-01-2010, 10:14 PM	#5
55 dude Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 359	Re: T-5 in a 39 question great pic's guys!

06-01-2010, 10:27 PM	#6
Flat Ernie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: 74FL Posts: 323	Re: T-5 in a 39 question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Good stuff here, folks... __________________ Daddy always said, "If yer gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough" and I'm one tough sumbitch! T5 Tech

06-01-2010, 11:01 PM	#7
Straightpipes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ballston Spa, NY Posts: 789	Re: T-5 in a 39 question 296 V8, I just set here trying to squash that pissant bug crawlin around on my screen............

06-02-2010, 12:16 AM	#8
X38 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 166	Re: T-5 in a 39 question That looks pretty nice Dirty Dan, but I'd still try to get something across the topside of the X member to tie it together.

06-02-2010, 07:32 AM	#10
Gary in Mozarks Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vienna Mo Posts: 232	Re: T-5 in a 39 question What are you guys using for rear springs and rear end? I assume it will be something with longatudinal leaf springs? Ive heard early bronco but I don;t know what year.

06-02-2010, 07:44 AM	#11
John T Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 95	Re: T-5 in a 39 question What type of ends are you using on the split wishbone and what are they mounted to?

06-02-2010, 07:45 AM	#12
John T Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 95	Re: T-5 in a 39 question Above question is for Dirty Dan.

06-02-2010, 07:54 AM	#13
Pete Fl/Wi Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 281	Re: T-5 in a 39 question Thanks for the pictures guys. I am planning on doing the same t-5 swap on my 39 pickup. This is a very helpful thread. Pete

06-02-2010, 01:44 PM	#15
Roger/Sacramento Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PRINEVILLE, OR. Posts: 490	Re: T-5 in a 39 question 1941 Pickup __________________ KIM KARDASHIAN ISN'T FLAT, BUT MY MOTOR IS..... http://s818.photobucket.com/home/roglehr/index

06-02-2010, 02:01 PM	#16
DirtyDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 146	Re: T-5 in a 39 question I am using an early bronco rear end as well. The years range from 1966-1977. I think 72 and later use a big bearing if you can find them. Most all of them have 3:55 gears as well. I am using the Chassis Engineering parallel spring kit to mount the rear. For the front I am using the supplied ends from the Pete and Jakes kit. Just poly bushings. You basically cut the wish bone and weld a bung in each open end then thread the poly bushing hardware into that and it all bolts up to the plate mounted to the bottom of the frame rails. I modified mine to be larger and incorporate a trans mount. The car is much further along than in these pics, but I have these uploaded already.

06-02-2010, 07:49 PM	#17
X38 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 166	Re: T-5 in a 39 question Btw Dan, I really like the gold on the engine and wheels, goes well with the body colour.

06-02-2010, 08:14 PM	#18
Roger/Sacramento Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PRINEVILLE, OR. Posts: 490	Re: T-5 in a 39 question All buttoned up __________________ KIM KARDASHIAN ISN'T FLAT, BUT MY MOTOR IS..... http://s818.photobucket.com/home/roglehr/index

06-02-2010, 08:17 PM	#19
Gary in Mozarks Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vienna Mo Posts: 232	Re: T-5 in a 39 question do you have any pictures of the attach points on the frame for the rear springs?

06-02-2010, 09:01 PM	#20
DirtyDan Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 146	Re: T-5 in a 39 question Roger, is that top plate something you made or purchased? I really like the looks of it. Seems like that would really stiffen up the x-member.