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frankvflorida · 01-30-2013, 03:59 PM

Hi!!! Frank here after a long time.

I need help with the holes in my firewall. The picture shows the orange holes that need to be filled. The yellow that need to stay and the square was a captured nut that I don't know what it is used for. My Pops fordor has one on the other side for the speedo cable. Am I missing a hole? What is the purpose of one in the square?

I also posted a picture of what I started with.

Thanks for the help,

Frank

2manycars · 01-30-2013, 05:57 PM

The captive nut in your square is a 12-24 nut for the bracket that holds the wire loom that comes from the generator and starter to the terminal box.

mot · 01-30-2013, 06:53 PM

you have a murray built car
the captive nut held a clip to hold the wire loom to the generator, to the firewall
all woven looms had the same clip as the one on top of the water inlet.holding the same woven loom
the early 30s had a metal conduit and this special clip shown
i just have never put the correct conduit on (early 30)

frankvflorida · 01-30-2013, 09:02 PM

Am I missing one on the other side for the speedometer cable?

Tom Wesenberg · 01-30-2013, 11:25 PM

Holy cow, that's a holey car!

I took a real good picture of a perfect firewall (ready for paint) just to show the correct holes. I'll see if I can find it and post it.

Arlen · 01-30-2013, 11:57 PM

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No on speedo cable

Vern · 01-31-2013, 12:11 AM

Frank, I feel for you. The cowl on my Victoria had 53 extra holes, including the big one for a manifold heater. Thanks to some excellent work by Mark Williamson, only the proper number of holes remain.

dumb person · 01-31-2013, 01:32 AM

So how many accessories was that fitted with? Or where those viewing ports for looking at the engine & road with?

Tom Wesenberg · 01-31-2013, 01:40 AM

Maybe this will help.

jw hash · 01-31-2013, 08:48 AM

yes, you are missing the nut on the other side for the speedo cable, the nut go`s on the outside. you can see it in Tom`s picture.

redmodelt · 01-31-2013, 11:07 AM

Someone got a new drill for Christmas!

dumb person · 01-31-2013, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redmodelt

Someone got a new drill for Christmas!

i was thinking that too.

frankvflorida · 01-31-2013, 10:38 PM

Just got home from working at the Church Carnival. Thank you all for the help and picture.

Mike V. Florida · 01-31-2013, 11:06 PM

I also saw the pic Frank. Since the nut shows on the firewall, I think we will take a captured nut from the floor board area and move it to Mr. Wesenberg's noted location.

James Rogers · 02-01-2013, 06:50 AM

Try this link to my web page on firewall repair. It will help you since the firewall is the same as yours.
http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com...allRepair.html

mot · 02-01-2013, 01:32 PM

i dont know why my last post didnt take
here are a couple of photos of the speedometer cable clamp ,inside and out
disreguard the accessory oil gauge tube
the round head screw holds the clamp from the inside
you should have a cage nut on the outside of your firewal for it (Murray)
Briggs will have a D nut

01-30-2013, 05:57 PM	#2
2manycars Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 2,732	Re: Fire wall holes The captive nut in your square is a 12-24 nut for the bracket that holds the wire loom that comes from the generator and starter to the terminal box.

01-30-2013, 09:02 PM	#4
frankvflorida Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 17	Re: Fire wall holes Am I missing one on the other side for the speedometer cable? __________________ www.franksvickie.webs.com Rust to Riches, a story about a boy and his car.

01-30-2013, 11:25 PM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Fire wall holes Holy cow, that's a holey car! I took a real good picture of a perfect firewall (ready for paint) just to show the correct holes. I'll see if I can find it and post it.

01-30-2013, 11:57 PM	#6
Arlen Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 524	Re: Fire wall holes Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) No on speedo cable __________________ DMAFC

01-31-2013, 12:11 AM	#7
Vern Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 572	Re: Fire wall holes Frank, I feel for you. The cowl on my Victoria had 53 extra holes, including the big one for a manifold heater. Thanks to some excellent work by Mark Williamson, only the proper number of holes remain.

01-31-2013, 01:32 AM	#8
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Fire wall holes So how many accessories was that fitted with? Or where those viewing ports for looking at the engine & road with? __________________ <Link> This is how we roll<Link> "I'm Convinced that no one really reads posts anymore; they just fabricate what they think the post says then ramble on about red herrings."--Bob Outcasts rules of old cars #1 Fun is imperative, mainstream is overrated #2 If they think it is impossible, prove them wrong #3 If the science says it impossible you are not being creative enough. #4 No shame in recreating something you never had #5 If it were not for the law & physics you would be unstoppable

01-31-2013, 01:40 AM	#9
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Fire wall holes Maybe this will help.

01-31-2013, 08:48 AM	#10
jw hash Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auburn Washington Posts: 2,552	Re: Fire wall holes yes, you are missing the nut on the other side for the speedo cable, the nut go`s on the outside. you can see it in Tom`s picture.

01-31-2013, 11:07 AM	#11
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Fire wall holes Someone got a new drill for Christmas!

01-31-2013, 10:38 PM	#13
frankvflorida Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 17	Re: Fire wall holes Just got home from working at the Church Carnival. Thank you all for the help and picture. __________________ www.franksvickie.webs.com Rust to Riches, a story about a boy and his car.

01-31-2013, 11:06 PM	#14
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Fire wall holes I also saw the pic Frank. Since the nut shows on the firewall, I think we will take a captured nut from the floor board area and move it to Mr. Wesenberg's noted location. __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

02-01-2013, 06:50 AM	#15
James Rogers Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Asheville,NC Posts: 3,104	Re: Fire wall holes Try this link to my web page on firewall repair. It will help you since the firewall is the same as yours. http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com...allRepair.html __________________ http://www.model-a-ford-4bangers.com/

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