phaeton top studs

[28 fast faton]

I have a 28 phaeton that I am trying to restore and I am at the stage of putting on the top irons. The top studs that fit into the 1/4 panel are supposed to thread into the body. Mine don t because the hole is too big so I will have to put a nut on the inside of the body to accommodate, but I can t get a nut to fit including the top nut on the outside. The thread on the stud is supposed to be a 7/16-14 and when I put the thread guage on it it reads 14 but a 7/16-14 nut won t fit on it. Does anyone know if the threads are especially high to create a tighter fit or are they a special thread.

[barnstuf]

In my 1929 Phaeton the top studs do not thread into the body but thread into a bracket mounted inside the body shell for that specific purpose.

[Clem Clement]

In the early cars there were several different top brackets, locations and thread sizes.
clem

[SSsssteamer]

On my '30 phaeton, the threaded hole inside the body sheet metal wasn't square with the sheet metal hole for the top saddle. It took some reefing with a drift punch before the stud would line up good enough to start on the inside threads. Another problem was that the studs that I bought from Mac's were about 1" too short. I made new studs out of stainless and they fit and looked much better than Mac's did. I hope that your new top folds up better than mine does. i have repo top irons and it took a lot of fitting before they would fold correctly. They still want to scratch the body paint if one isn't careful enough.

[Tim]

The studs screw into a bracket which attaches to the rear door pillar and the rearward brace. The body area is just where they come through.

Tim

[Wagga A'er]

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I have an early 28. Mine thread into a fixture inside the body and behind the inside trim.
Dave

[wrndln]

Do you have top brackets like the one in the picture below? This is what phaetons I have seen have attached behind the large hole in the quarterpanel where a stud screws into the bracket. The bracket is attached to the body wood behind the quarterpanel and spot welded to the underside of the top of the quarterpanel.
Rusty Nelson

[28 fast faton]

Thanks Everyone. It all worked out.