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Mamel · 05-10-2017, 11:55 AM

Hello guy's

So I am pulling my rear hubs on my 1930 model A.

One side came apart really easy but the other side is an other story.

The hub came loose but I think the brake shoe is stuck in the hub.
I tried to adjust the brake shoes but the adjustment will not budge.

What are my options?

Best regards
Maeckel

Will N · 05-10-2017, 03:25 PM

If the drum moved out a little and the shoe got hung up, push (maybe needing a rubber mallet whack) the drum back in place, and then try backing off the adjustment wedge.

The hard part is done- if the hub broke free of the axle, you'll get it off!

Bob C · 05-10-2017, 03:30 PM

Also try turning the drum as you pull it off.

Bob

Mamel · 05-10-2017, 05:15 PM

The problem is also that I can not back up the adjustment wedge because this one is also seized.

Mamel · 05-10-2017, 05:16 PM

Okay thanks Bob, I will try this tomorrow

Brian in Wheeling · 05-10-2017, 07:11 PM

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Penetrating oil is your friend. I use Kroil, others use different concoctions. soak the adjusters let sit and repeat, a little heat wouldn't hert either, then soak again when cool. Work back and forth. Keep at it they should free up
Brian W.

Charlville · 05-11-2017, 03:21 AM

I've found the use of the penetrating oil with the freeze capability is very helpful

https://eshop.wurth.co.uk/Rust-remov...sku/en/GB/GBP/

or this one with a more humorous name

https://www.amazon.co.uk/CarPlan-Fre.../dp/B00499DFPK

Mamel · 05-11-2017, 07:14 AM

At this moment it is still soaking, I will check it tonight

larrys40 · 05-11-2017, 07:14 AM

Like Bob said try turning the drum . It might help to mount the wheel back on and use the advantage if the wheel to see if the drum will walk off.
The adjuster must and will eventually come out after drum removal. You just have to soak it and use enough muscle and a square socket to remove. Heat may be necessary .
If the adjuster is that bad you probably need a total brake rebuild as that's not a good sign for the system . How do the brake levers move ?
Larry Shepard

JDupuis · 05-11-2017, 07:36 AM

Patience young Grasshopper....
As Larry stated, use a square socket, or the square brake wrench.
Remember right is tight.....left is loose. This is from looking at the backer plate from the underside of the car. Not from curbside of the car. Good luck. Jeff

V4F · 05-11-2017, 08:53 AM

I just went thru that with an original 1928 . the "e" brake was holding them tight . after days of trying (soaking / heat) , I went to work on it more & they were loose & came off .

Mamel · 05-12-2017, 05:23 AM

The adjustment wedge is loose now I will try to pull the hub again later tonight.

Mamel · 05-13-2017, 05:35 AM

Thanks guys! The hub came off very easy while pulling and turning the drum.

larrys40 · 05-13-2017, 07:14 AM

Maekel,
Great, thanks for the follow up !!
Larry

05-10-2017, 11:55 AM	#1
Mamel Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 52	Pulling rear hub Hello guy's So I am pulling my rear hubs on my 1930 model A. One side came apart really easy but the other side is an other story. The hub came loose but I think the brake shoe is stuck in the hub. I tried to adjust the brake shoes but the adjustment will not budge. What are my options? Best regards Maeckel

05-10-2017, 03:25 PM	#2
Will N Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,100	Re: Pulling rear hub If the drum moved out a little and the shoe got hung up, push (maybe needing a rubber mallet whack) the drum back in place, and then try backing off the adjustment wedge. The hard part is done- if the hub broke free of the axle, you'll get it off!

05-10-2017, 03:30 PM	#3
Bob C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 8,751	Re: Pulling rear hub Also try turning the drum as you pull it off. Bob

05-10-2017, 05:15 PM	#4
Mamel Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 52	Re: Pulling rear hub The problem is also that I can not back up the adjustment wedge because this one is also seized.

05-10-2017, 05:16 PM	#5
Mamel Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 52	Re: Pulling rear hub Okay thanks Bob, I will try this tomorrow

05-10-2017, 07:11 PM	#6
Brian in Wheeling Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wheeling, WV - U.S.A. Posts: 241	Re: Pulling rear hub Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Penetrating oil is your friend. I use Kroil, others use different concoctions. soak the adjusters let sit and repeat, a little heat wouldn't hert either, then soak again when cool. Work back and forth. Keep at it they should free up Brian W.

05-11-2017, 03:21 AM	#7
Charlville Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: West Berkshire, United Kingdom Posts: 368	Re: Pulling rear hub I've found the use of the penetrating oil with the freeze capability is very helpful https://eshop.wurth.co.uk/Rust-remov...sku/en/GB/GBP/ or this one with a more humorous name https://www.amazon.co.uk/CarPlan-Fre.../dp/B00499DFPK __________________ Kevin Flood West Berkshire UK Member MAFCGB, VHRA, SAH, Brooklands Trust Sporadic progress on My 1929 Sport Coupe can be found here along with my blog http://automotiveamerican.com/

05-11-2017, 07:14 AM	#8
Mamel Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 52	Re: Pulling rear hub At this moment it is still soaking, I will check it tonight

05-11-2017, 07:14 AM	#9
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 1,998	Re: Pulling rear hub Like Bob said try turning the drum . It might help to mount the wheel back on and use the advantage if the wheel to see if the drum will walk off. The adjuster must and will eventually come out after drum removal. You just have to soak it and use enough muscle and a square socket to remove. Heat may be necessary . If the adjuster is that bad you probably need a total brake rebuild as that's not a good sign for the system . How do the brake levers move ? Larry Shepard Last edited by larrys40; 05-11-2017 at 09:39 AM.

05-11-2017, 07:36 AM	#10
JDupuis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Maryhill Ont Canada Posts: 834	Re: Pulling rear hub Patience young Grasshopper.... As Larry stated, use a square socket, or the square brake wrench. Remember right is tight.....left is loose. This is from looking at the backer plate from the underside of the car. Not from curbside of the car. Good luck. Jeff __________________ Let's let pylons, be pylons!

05-11-2017, 08:53 AM	#11
V4F Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ca. Posts: 2,522	Re: Pulling rear hub I just went thru that with an original 1928 . the "e" brake was holding them tight . after days of trying (soaking / heat) , I went to work on it more & they were loose & came off . __________________ V4f

05-12-2017, 05:23 AM	#12
Mamel Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 52	Re: Pulling rear hub The adjustment wedge is loose now I will try to pull the hub again later tonight.

05-13-2017, 05:35 AM	#13
Mamel Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 52	Re: Pulling rear hub Thanks guys! The hub came off very easy while pulling and turning the drum.

05-13-2017, 07:14 AM	#14
larrys40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St Charles , Missouri Posts: 1,998	Re: Pulling rear hub Maekel, Great, thanks for the follow up !! Larry