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diyforever · 01-08-2015, 08:29 PM

Ooops. ...is service brake cross shaft supposed to hit the back of Trans? After doing brake job, noticed pedal doesnt move much. Further inspection found that shaft won't rotate any more cause hits against back of tranny? Is this common or do I have a unique situation.
Wondering what is fix? Picture attached

1930artdeco · 01-08-2015, 08:32 PM

Is the frame sagging? I should not hit anything.

Mike

JEC · 01-08-2015, 08:35 PM

I would check your engine mounts.

700rpm · 01-08-2015, 08:39 PM

Yeah, that ain't right. You got a problem right there. Frame or motor mounts, as suggested.

Big hammer · 01-08-2015, 08:43 PM

Ooops No What kind of brake job Sounds like brake rods are out of adjustment

Tom Endy · 01-08-2015, 08:53 PM

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Release the four brake rods and adjust the one from the pedal so that the levers on the cross shaft are straight up and down. From there adjust each brake rod accordingly.

Tom Endy

diyforever · 01-08-2015, 09:23 PM

Thank you all. Good suggestions. Will check that out and post back. Doesn't anyone know how much clearance there should be? 1/4, 1/2 inch? My 1930 has zero.

Tom Wesenberg · 01-08-2015, 09:40 PM

My friend's 31 did the same thing, until he had the frame straightened. Do as Tom said in 6 and also check the frame for sag at the rear motor mounts.

kenparker · 01-08-2015, 11:29 PM

Your problem is not unusual. Check your Motor mounts. Make sure they are not cracked or possible the rubber pads are old, cracked and lets the metal sag or worse loose. Make sure your front motor mount is in right place. Crank hole should line up. If front mount is to high the rear of the tranny will be too low. If your rear mounts are sagging the tranny will be too low.

A temporary fix is to add a couple washers between the frame and the Brake Cross Shaft Bushing Bracket. That will lower the Cross Shaft 1/16 to 1/8". 'member I said temporary.

Check your Frame. a sagging frame will cause your problem. Frames usually sag at the rear motor mount area - where the weight and stress is.

01-08-2015, 08:32 PM	#2
1930artdeco Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lynden, Wa Posts: 3,550	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? Is the frame sagging? I should not hit anything. Mike __________________ 1930 TownSedan (Briggs) 1957 Country Sedan

01-08-2015, 08:35 PM	#3
JEC Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 41	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? I would check your engine mounts.

01-08-2015, 08:39 PM	#4
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,902	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? Yeah, that ain't right. You got a problem right there. Frame or motor mounts, as suggested. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

01-08-2015, 08:43 PM	#5
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,127	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? Ooops No What kind of brake job Sounds like brake rods are out of adjustment

01-08-2015, 08:53 PM	#6
Tom Endy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,131	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Release the four brake rods and adjust the one from the pedal so that the levers on the cross shaft are straight up and down. From there adjust each brake rod accordingly. Tom Endy

01-08-2015, 09:23 PM	#7
diyforever Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Fallbrook, California Posts: 25	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? Thank you all. Good suggestions. Will check that out and post back. Doesn't anyone know how much clearance there should be? 1/4, 1/2 inch? My 1930 has zero.

01-08-2015, 09:40 PM	#8
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? My friend's 31 did the same thing, until he had the frame straightened. Do as Tom said in 6 and also check the frame for sag at the rear motor mounts.

01-08-2015, 11:29 PM	#9
kenparker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Van, Texas Posts: 1,122	Re: Oooops...do service brake cross shafts bottom out? Your problem is not unusual. Check your Motor mounts. Make sure they are not cracked or possible the rubber pads are old, cracked and lets the metal sag or worse loose. Make sure your front motor mount is in right place. Crank hole should line up. If front mount is to high the rear of the tranny will be too low. If your rear mounts are sagging the tranny will be too low. A temporary fix is to add a couple washers between the frame and the Brake Cross Shaft Bushing Bracket. That will lower the Cross Shaft 1/16 to 1/8". 'member I said temporary. Check your Frame. a sagging frame will cause your problem. Frames usually sag at the rear motor mount area - where the weight and stress is.