The Mystery of the Right Side Spare Tire on my 1930 PU?

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by Jim/Alabam

1930 PICK UP: Fact or fiction, you have stated a lot of assumptions in your post...

I'm not sure there is a question or statement here. I did base my observations on 42 years of vintage car and aircraft experience, both restoration and preservation of many different brands.

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by Railcarmover

Like anyone else I admire the car..its a product of something equally admirable, the Rouge..

I agree. I grew up in Dearborn and I toured the plant when my father worked for Ford as a research scientist. I used to walk past the Ford test track when walking to school.

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by 100IH

Noticed that the running board splash aprons are one piece, is your dash (firewall) indented? Running board is certainly commercial. Dealers have been known to switch things around to make a sale, as in bodies. Sub frame cross member under the drivers feet should have a clue as to location of assembly plant.

The dash is not indented.

Based on research by Steve Plucker, and my brief contact with him, the marking on the cross member did not indicate anything conclusive.

[Railcarmover]

Originally Posted by 1930-Pickup

I'm not sure there is a question or statement here. I did base my observations on 42 years of vintage car and aircraft experience, both restoration and preservation of many different brands.

In the absence of facts assumptions are the educated mans way to come to a conclusion. Often in forums like these assumptions foster conversation and drive the question closer to fact.For instance, the riveting of the side mount bracket is an interesting direction of the evidence..Ford used riveting in a number of production applications, though it wouldn't be a surprise if the dealerships employed rivets as well, it was a common means of fastening structural components back then.

[Railcarmover]

is that a whizzer leaning against the wall?

[asapguy]

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Interesting comments. I have a late 1930 CCPU purchased in Long Beach Ca. in 1976 where I lived at the time. I'm the 3rd owner. It's never been apart. Still has the tin shield between the cab & bed attached to the frame. It does have a left side mount. It has a stainless cowl band & rad. shell & one piece splash aprons. My title has a Vin # LB-73XXX & not a standard A#. I know of one other Long Beach assembled truck that also had an LB vin #. The Long Beach assembly plant on Ford Is. closed in 1959, the island was sinking from all the oil that had been pumped out from under it.

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by Railcarmover

is that a whizzer leaning against the wall?

Yep
Its a 1949 Schwinn WZ-507 with a Whizzer model J. Badged as, assembled by, and sold through, a B.F. Goodrich retail store. All original, runs great. Too fast for a bicycle!

[Mainiac96]

I have a late 1931 closed cab steel roof wide body that came to me with both left and right side mounts. Both sides have support brackets that are bolted and appear identical. It has the indented firewall. Any ideas on that combo? Mike in Maine

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by Mainiac96

I have a late 1931 closed cab steel roof wide body that came to me with both left and right side mounts. Both sides have support brackets that are bolted and appear identical. It has the indented firewall. Any ideas on that combo? Mike in Maine

Pickups ordinarily came with just one side-mount, usually the on the left. AFAIK, factory-installed ones were riveted. A lot could have happened in the last 86 years. My guess is the factory-riveted arm was replaced with a bolt-on for some reason (collision damage?) Installing a second side-mount where there was none before requires some work but it can be, and has been, done.

[160B]

FYI & FWIW

The Brake Rod return springs on your vehicle are the wire type and they were used from July 1931 through the end of production.

See the attached RG&JS 7-8 REVISED 2011

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by 160B

FYI & FWIW

The Brake Rod return springs on your vehicle are the wire type and they were used from July 1931 through the end of production.

See the attached RG&JS 7-8 REVISED 2011

True, but there is no indented firewall, so it would probably be earlier than that. Also, to the best of my understanding, only wire type return springs were supplied by dealers as later replacements.

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by CHuDWah

Pickups ordinarily came with just one side-mount, usually the on the left. AFAIK, factory-installed ones were riveted. A lot could have happened in the last 86 years. My guess is the factory-riveted arm was replaced with a bolt-on for some reason (collision damage?) Installing a second side-mount where there was none before requires some work but it can be, and has been, done.

x2.

[Railcarmover]

Originally Posted by 1930-Pickup

Yep
Its a 1949 Schwinn WZ-507 with a Whizzer model J. Badged as, assembled by, and sold through, a B.F. Goodrich retail store. All original, runs great. Too fast for a bicycle!

That is sweet..

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Folks "think" California Cars are "RUST FREE"---Just hang around the COAST & OBSERVE!!!
Bill Notrusty

[denniskliesen]

Originally Posted by 100IH

Noticed that the running board splash aprons are one piece, is your dash (firewall) indented? Running board is certainly commercial. Dealers have been known to switch things around to make a sale, as in bodies. Sub frame cross member under the drivers feet should have a clue as to location of assembly plant.

It could also be on one of the side sub rails. Or anywhere on the subframe.

[Railcarmover]

Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Folks "think" California Cars are "RUST FREE"---Just hang around the COAST & OBSERVE!!!
Bill Notrusty

Had a collector explain to me that there are five different 'car' climates in CA.

1. the rusty coast
2. the solid desert
3. the mostly solid valley (marine inversion, tule fog)
4. the solid foothills (no marine inversion, dry)
5, the rusty mountains (no salt, but just as wet as the coast)

he's a strange one in other ways too ,a mountain of hoarded parts, wont pass a screw..

[1930-Pickup]

Originally Posted by Railcarmover

Had a collector explain to me that there are five different 'car' climates in CA.

1. the rusty coast
2. the solid desert
3. the mostly solid valley (marine inversion, tule fog)
4. the solid foothills (no marine inversion, dry)
5, the rusty mountains (no salt, but just as wet as the coast)

he's a strange one in other ways too ,a mountain of hoarded parts, wont pass a screw..

That's been my observation too.

Fortunately my pickup lived (almost?) all of its life near Fullerton CA (as I was told anyway). Fullerton is about 15 miles from the coast and it's dry most of the time.

"...he's a strange one...wont pass a screw." No comment.