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Old 11-14-2019, 12:16 PM   #121
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I was wondering how you eliminated blow back and bare spots when painting into an enclosed frame pocket. I still use a siphon gun on sheet metal topcoats even though I do have a high quality HVLP gun. The time involved in prep work and the cost of paint is such I am chicken to take a chance with something I am not completely used to. I still use the same siphon gun I bought in 1972 (DeVilbiss JGA 502).
Wish I could farm out the body/prep/paint work!
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Old 11-14-2019, 12:26 PM   #122
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Some of you have expressed interest throughout the past that you'd enjoy a thread wherein I'd show the progress and perhaps some methods to one of my restorations.
I am just beginning a ground up, concourse restoration on a '40 Ford Business coupe.
So, the question is (kind of a poll), "who might enjoy this?"
Mind you, it (the restoration) will take approximately one year.
Please count me in!
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V8: No doubt about it, when it comes to 40 Fords,
Mike is an "supranatural resource" with the patience of a toothache.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:31 PM   #124
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:41 PM   #125
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A good day indeed!
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Old 11-14-2019, 06:49 PM   #126
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Mike, as with anything when you find something that works, stick with it! Out of curiosity do you use Nason on the sheet metal as well?

I havenít sprayed much DuPont products other than some chromabase (base coat) as itís hard to find around here. I assume Nason is a DuPont product?

Again excellent work in a world where most frames receive krylon from walmart!
Michael,
The Nason is simply that - Nason. No affiliation with DuPont that I am aware of.

I've been using DuPont Chromabase on the sheet metal for the last six cars or so. Typically four coats of color and three or four coats of clear. I figure on sanding off one coat of clear prior to buffing.
I have learned to manage the ChromaBase fairly well and have grown comfortable with it.
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:11 PM   #127
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Not too shabby, especially for a day that started-out at about 17 degrees. DD


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Old 11-14-2019, 09:19 PM   #128
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That would be great
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:11 PM   #129
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:12 PM   #130
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Sorry but now the project as always slows. The body work takes more time than any other part of my restorations. I'd mentioned in an earlier post that to keep me fairly sane, I will often prepare subassemblies while the body work continues - just for a little break in the action.
In the past week, I'd managed to complete quite a few things. The horn / bracket assembly as well as the headlamp bucket assemblies are ready to install. Some of you may note all of the requisite hardware is in place. Once I start assembling the car, I like to stay in the assembly mode and not have to switch in (and out of) the search mode.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:18 PM   #131
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The body work is going along actually quite well. In a different thread here on the Barn, the question was raised as to the quality of the reproduction rear tool tray pan.
Well, let's say it's "okay". Better than what I had for certain. Still, it required a lot of work to get it to fit properly. this one came from Pacific Parts. I do not know if they supply Drake and Carpenter. If you look at the photos carefully, you'll see I had to cut each side near the fender mount and move the panel in. About 1/8" was required on the left side, nearly 1/4" on the right side.
My guess is most guys would simply install this pan and figure "good enough". Me? I can't seem to force myself to accept "good enough". This pan was simply too wide. From my experience as a tool maker, it appears to have been formed poorly.
Anyway, it's welded up and the shape and width are now correct for a '40 Ford.
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Managed to get the backing plate assemblies done as well. I have found it so much easier to have these ready to install to the spindles and rear axle housings as assemblies than build them on the chassis.
I did have to shorten the spring that is over the brake cable. The reproduction is fit with a spring at each end that is considerably longer than it was authentically and will cause issues if left as received.
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Old 12-05-2019, 09:39 PM   #133
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Looking good Mike!
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:42 PM   #134
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Mike,
Might I ask how the ?!?! you remove the brake adjusters to have them plated??
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:48 PM   #135
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count me in too! Hugh
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Old 12-07-2019, 12:45 PM   #136
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Made a bit more progress this past week. Ya laugh but here goes:
The trunk lid did not fit as well as I would like. It was in fact too close in many areas to the body. You can note in the photos some of my inked marks as to where I needed to cut the edges and where I needed to add to them. Now the lid fits beautifully.
Back fenders? I ended up cutting the flange that the attachment bolts go through in order to match the curve of the fenders with the curve of the body. Yes, the welt would conceal most of this mismatch but I'd know it was lurking. So, cutting the "flange" in a number of spots allowed me to move the fender around to where I was happy with it.
Yes guys... it is a sickness
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:24 PM   #137
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Nice work, Mike.

I can relate to this type of effort. We often have to remove thin sections of fenders not originally from the subject project car to ensure proper fit and once in a while even if the fender was original equipment to the car.

At times seriously original car bodies with original paint intact will show evidence of in-plant sheet metal 'adjustments'. Serious hammers were standard equipment in assembly plants until numerical control equipment minimized sheet metal variations that were previously inevitable in stamping operations.
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Old 12-07-2019, 01:59 PM   #138
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Excellent work and discussion. It's good for all of us to know what it takes. How much of it we choose to apply is up to us, but at least we know what to do.

Thanks Mike (and the other contributors adding their thoughts).
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Serious hammers were standard equipment in assembly plants until numerical control equipment minimized sheet metal variations that were previously inevitable in stamping operations.

I went through the then-new Corvette factory in Bowling Green, Ky. back in September of 1982. It was amazing as we got toward the end of the line, to watch some of the beating-on, bending, jerking-on, tugging and whanging with fists and open palms to make various components fit something like the original design called for. Barbaric process for sure, yet most of 'em didn't look too shabby going out the big door. DD
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Old 12-07-2019, 02:43 PM   #140
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I think it's really cool that "Kube" is willing to share his knowledge and show the results with others. Lots of folks take it all with them on their last ride.
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