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Old 11-10-2019, 09:18 AM   #21
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Default Re: 32 axle bent twist ?

From my advantage point looking at the pictures you posted, the axle is bent in the middle. Looks like it has a sharp bend smack dab in the middle. Flip it over and see if it will stay up on its own. Certainly looks bent to me. If it is, something very drastic happened to it for these axles are very strong.

Have you laid the wishbone down flat as well? Just to make sure thats not bent?

If it is the axle, good news is guys like Andy Kohler or Greg Ansen can fix it for you.

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Old 11-10-2019, 10:38 AM   #22
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I agree that it appears to be bent in the middle, but unusually so. Normally, bends occur from the axle striking an hard object like a large rock or tree stump causing deformation front to back. In your photos, the bend appears to have occurred from top to bottom which is extraordinary.
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Old 11-10-2019, 11:06 AM   #23
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I agree that it appears to be bent in the middle, but unusually so. Normally, bends occur from the axle striking an hard object like a large rock or tree stump causing deformation front to back. In your photos, the bend appears to have occurred from top to bottom which is extraordinary.
Agreed. From the looks of it, it appears quite sharp and not a gentle bend.
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Old 11-10-2019, 11:36 AM   #24
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Ok guys thanks for sticking with me. I was lucky enough a friend dropped his 32 axle off While I get ready to send mine off to get straighted
So I put my wishbone on the axle
Is this gap normal on both left and right bottom sides?
I can fit a 25 cent quarter half way in ?

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Old 11-10-2019, 11:48 AM   #25
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Is it possible the wishbone got tweaked when the axle was bent?


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Old 11-10-2019, 12:20 PM   #26
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Hey Bob , I Purchased from two different people , but if I lay a straight edge down both side of the bones they are perfect, if I lay it flat, both perch ends lay flat on ground. But the ball end does not touch and the first 3inches on the right side after the ball (casting) does not touch
Would that throw everything off even if the side are straight?
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:31 PM   #27
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Hey Bob , I Purchased from two different people , but if I lay a straight edge down both side of the bones they are perfect, if I lay it flat, both perch ends lay flat on ground. But the ball end does not touch and the first 3inches on the right side after the ball (casting) does not touch
Would that throw everything off even if the side are straight?
Yes, but not as drastic as in the first picts. So think of it this way. It's like plumbing a door frame. The openings for the axle bosses need to be parallel and level. If you were able to find the centerline, the ball should line up in the same plane as the openings for the axle bosses. If it's tweaked, that throughs off the center line.
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:36 PM   #28
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Try and find an unmodified, unbent axle to borrow and try out, even a '33 or'34 as they are the same spring perch to spring perch dimensionally. Who knows how the dropped axle was modified?
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Old 11-10-2019, 12:44 PM   #29
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My wishbone was bent like yours. We scratched our heads how the ball mount centerline was off, yet the axle perch opens were on line and level. Point being, who knows what happens to these parts, but more times than not, they can be fixed.
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:41 PM   #30
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How red neck would it be if I put a bar through the perch pin holes And twist it back so it lays flat on axle boses I’m pretty sure that would work ?
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:44 PM   #31
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:54 PM   #32
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To me these threads are a lot better long term with the photos imbedded.
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:56 PM   #33
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And two of the earlier ones.
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:57 PM   #34
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Old 11-10-2019, 03:59 PM   #35
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Thank you JSeery I tried for a hour to load pictures ,This is the only way I could figure I appreciate it
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:59 PM   #36
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Not at all. That’s what we did. We used heat to get it hot before bending back into place.
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Old 11-10-2019, 06:12 PM   #37
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in the photos where it shows the wishbone fitting very loose, it looks like the axle boss may be worn there. for fun, measure both sides and see if they are the same. thanks for the photos jerry !
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Old 11-10-2019, 06:16 PM   #38
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Thank you JSeery I tried for a hour to load pictures ,This is the only way I could figure I appreciate it
If you want any other photos posted you can email them to me and I can post them for you. jseery@ymail.com
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Old 11-10-2019, 06:38 PM   #39
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Without the parts in front of me it's hard to say exactly what is going on.

The bosses on the axle should be 2" and the top and bottom faces should be flat and parallel to each other. That is the first thing to check.

The kingpin boss and the perch pin boss should be parallel to each other at the same end.

If your friend has another axle, lay the two axles down one on top of the other. Do all the angles of all the holes match? They should do, exactly.

Although each tubular part of the wishbone is tapered, and oval in section, every surface of each tube should be straight from one end to the other. Are they straight?

The internal dimension of each perch location (Where it fits the axle) should be 2". Each surface should be straight and parallel.

If a perch bolt comes loose, the perch bolt, the hole in the axle, the top and bottom faces of the axle and the internal mating faces of the wishbone all can wear. My 33 was like this.

Please verify what is good and not good with the parts you have. The axle has to fit good into the wishbone locations. The perch bolt will not close up a bellmouthed wishbone jaw.

One last thought, if you lay your axle down on a table with paper laid out on it (I use wallpaper lining paper). You could trace the shape of the axle on it, and using a ruler or piece of tubing draw the angles of all the bosses on the paper. You could then measure all the angles and check they are all the same and each side is a mirror image of the other.
You could also flip the axle over and check it fits the outline and all the angles still match.

For info the king pin inclination should be 8 degrees or 7-1/2 degrees, depending on where you look. Your paper layout will confirm what you have.

You could also do the same for your friends axle, see if it comes out the same as yours.

You have the parts, you need to determine what is wrong with them.

All we can do is offer advice.

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Old 11-10-2019, 10:46 PM   #40
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I had a 32 axle that resembled yours many years ago, I had it straightened and dropped by Anson Axles. He did an excellent job. He also repaired a couple 32 axles for me without dropping them.
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