E code Air cleaner housing

[rowens55]

As I recall ( I can check tonight) those will be to large.

[KULTULZ]

Just an idea. They were used on a 427 FE COBRA.

[Oldmics]

Isnt it Hellings & Stellings for those air cleaners ?

They apparently have been a long time supplier for Ford and Merc preformance parts for quite some time.

I remember that they provided the air cleaners for the 1956 Merc M 260 setup.

Oldmics

[Milt/Las Vegas]

Originally Posted by Oldmics

Isnt it Hellings & Stellings for those air cleaners ?

They apparently have been a long time supplier for Ford and Merc preformance parts for quite some time.

I remember that they provided the air cleaners for the 1956 Merc M 260 setup.

Oldmics

I wondered if 56 Mercs offered a dual 4 setup.I've seen 56 Merc medalist 2 doors with a stick shift.I think California hiway had some.

[scicala]

'56 Mercury and Ford both offered their own "over the counter" dual quad (260 HP) NASCAR kits. Two different part numbers for the kit. Both kits shared the same one off teapot carbs. Oldmics is the resident expert with part numbers and factory documentation. Never installed on the assembly line. Was not a Police Interceptor thing.

Sal

[KULTULZ]

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Originally Posted by Milt/Las Vegas

I wondered if 56 Mercs offered a dual 4 setup.I've seen 56 Merc medalist 2 doors with a stick shift.I think California hiway had some.

Made an answering post and posted no info...

This getting old and Advancing CRS is a b!tch-

Below is the M 260 Kit Description...

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by Oldmics

Isnt it Hellings & Stellings for those air cleaners ?

Oldmics

Correct. I slurred my URL...

[KULTULZ]

Here's another two suppliers-

http://wolkdesign.net/dual4bbl.htm

http://www.obrientruckers.com/ecom/category/239/

Just suggestions.

[rowens55]

Not shire how much help this will be. My ECG9424-D intake is 7 7/16" center to center front stud to front std. that leaves 3 15/16" (if my math is correct) rad for each air cleaner. Thus my choice of 2 @ 6 3/8"..think they were (pour memory) about 12 bucks apiece. Bought 2 extra elements and stacked em. I'll try and find the pic. Personally think they look kinda kool.

[Alaska Jim]

I want to thank everyone who answered my questions and gave me advise I appreciate all of it. I will take my measurements, and if it will work I will keep looking until I find one, and then see if I can bring myself to cough up the dough, I don't expect it will be cheap. Thank you all.-----Jim

[My Old Blue]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

Here's another two suppliers-

http://wolkdesign.net/dual4bbl.htm

http://www.obrientruckers.com/ecom/category/239/

Just suggestions.

Thank you for these links. Good options.

[Jay in Mass]

Originally Posted by Alaska Jim

Milt/Las Vegas, . I have a 2x4 set-up on an Edelbrock manifold with 2 of the 4000 series teapot carbs. I think the center to center of the air cleaner studs are the same as a factory manifold.

I had an aftermarket dual quad Y block intake and the center to center air cleaner studs were NOT the same as factory studs. Had to use a factory dual quad manifold to get the stock dual air cleaner studs to fit.

[Milt/Las Vegas]

Originally Posted by dmsfrr

Alaska Jim...
On a facebook Thunderbird page I remember an E-code owner asking for help locating replacement filter elements. Not sure what he ended up using, apparently they are almost as difficult to find as the housing. Just something else to consider....
Dennis


<edit>
Filter elements -
I found the original fb post and copied 3 (unverified) comments below from other folks.

"The Ford specs for these elements are: 5 9/16" ID, 7 1/16" OD, 2 1/8" High with part number: B7A-9601-F ... but no one seems to have anymore. An alternate might be FRAM's 42148 measuring 5 1/16" ID, 6 7/8" OD, 2.150 High. Not the exact size, but possibly close enough to work. At $7 from rockauto I'd give it a try."

http://www.autopartoo.com/oem/fram/ca130pl.html

"here's a link to the K&N filter Brian mentioned"
https://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=e-3320
Height 1.75 in
Inside Diameter 5.25 in
Outside Diameter 6.25 in
.

Remember the car filters are taller than the t-bird filters.

[Alaska Jim]

Jay, and Milt. Thank you for the information I appreciate it. I have found the chart that Ted Eaton had posted over on the Y-blocks forever forum, I will try to post it for every one so if this comes up again it will be here for all.

[Alaska Jim]

Here are the carb center to center spacings for the various Y dual quad intakes.

Edelbrock FM255 – 8 ¾”
Edelbrock 257 – 7 1/8”
Edmunds DM-427 – 8 9/16”
Mercury ECZ-9424-C – 8 ¾”
1956 Ford EDB-9425-C – 7 5/16”
1957 Ford ECG-9424-D – 7 5/16”
Fenton DM-427 – 8 9/16”

[Oldmics]

Jim

I have seen that measurement list posted somewhere else, perhaps it was Ted Eatons over on Y Blocks forever.

I am only going to address the measurements on the Ford manifolds.

I"m sticking by my center to center distance of the Holly teapots mounted in REVERSE order as applicable for T Birds as 7 13/32.

Orienting the carbs in a normal fashion in the way the "E" Code passenger cars used them brings a different measurement of 7 7/16 (or 7 14/32)

The hold down wing nut holes in the "E" air cleaners are drilled 3/8 .

So theres a fair amount of room for a 1/32 offset difference in the fit of the air cleaner regardless in the orientation of the carbs.

I know its just splitting hairs on my 1/32 difference measuements BUT it is a fair amount of difference ( 1/8 ) as opposed to the 7 5/16 spec that has been posted.

Now all that being said I"m curious to know - what did your manifold measure out to be and what air filter will you be using ?

Oldmics

[Alaska Jim]

Oldmics, the stud to stud distance on my 2x4 set-up measures 7.230 inches. that chart I posted , did come from the Y-Block forever forum, posted by Ted Eaton. I guess for now I will use the "D" shaped air cleaners that I bought from spotlite custom accessories a little over a year ago. I am not completely sure I like the look, I may powder coat them black instead of chrome. the tri-power air cleaners are black, that are on the eng. that is In my car now, as are the manifold, v/c's, and other components, the eng. itself is gold I will try and post a couple of pictures, they are not very good, but will give you an idea what is going on. I guess I will not be using the factory oval air cleaner

[KULTULZ]

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

i captured this photo from a web page supposedly showing an original 1956 MERC Monterey M260 install (AUCTION HOUSE LISTING).

I am pretty sure the element(s) is not correct.

I have a factory kit release correct photo stored somewhere...

EDIT-

CRS AGAIN! Where's The Beef!?!?

The air cleaner is not correct as it is the oval air cleaner (unless two separate kits were issued or this is a real M 260 Factory Build.

The ACL ELEMENTS APPEAR TOO HIGH. Possibly correct replacements couldn't be found...?

[Oldmics]

Real item as found

Oldmics

[Oldmics]

Jim

Thats a might healthy looking Y Block !

Oldmics